Why do casual players seem entitled to cosmetic items added in game?

[Gember]

You are basically asking “why are games as a universal concept the way they are”

Games use rewards to drive you towards a particular thing. Like would you be fine if you completed a long game spanning gathering quest in an open world RPG and your reward was a pat on the back. No you expect a reward

This straight up reminds me of the 6 year levequest achievements. Absolutely no reward at the end of it all except all of the gil and time you invested into it. (Though I will admit I am happy there is no reward at the end of a 6 year achievement grind. Gives me no incentive to do them.)

[ronibosch]

Casual with a painfully busy life here.

Kinda regretting not leveling up to 100 and doing current Extreme or Savage fights so I could at least attempt the raid before the hype goes away.

I don't think I'll ever have enough gil in time to purchase that hairstyle, judging from the short window of time I have until prices potentially begin to skyrocket on the board.

C'est la vie, I guess - it's such a cute hairstyle, too.

[UkcsAlias]

Character customization options should not be tied to difficult content. It's really that simple.

Showing off your achievement to others through equipment is one of the oldest ways that exists in games.

[lucatracy]

Why do those who enjoy hardcore content need incentives? I thought the point was to "beat the game." If success beating or enjoying the fight isn't reward enough in itself and these folks want to flex, give them a title. We could have a contest to come up with some suitable ones.

Because incentives aren't only for the people that already want to do it for flex status, they're also for people that DON'T want to.

[Tint]

It's difficult to understand the reasonings. People complained that Delubrum had a hairstyle as a rare drop so they added an token exchange to make it easier available. And now they lock a hairstyle behind the 24 man savage.

And in two years they will gift it away with the moogle tomestones.


With all the mounts, pets and now hairstyle they added to unreal trials, criterion and chaotic raid it becomes an expensive affair for a casual player to collect such things. They all sell for a couple of millions each. It puts hardcore players in a position where they profit a bit too much of casual players and it feels even more like a class divide. The "upper class" gets all the content, nice rewards and for playing their preferred content they also get tons of money. But they don't even need it because they don't have to pay 20 million for a hairstyle. The prices are already rising again.

The thing is there are no gear rewards, no progression system for casual players. The only reason they stick around is because they like to collect cosmetic items, minions, mounts, whatever. But that becomes more and more impossible. So why should they continue playing the game when they can't continue building their collection?

Savage now has 15-25% clear rates of all active players? I wonder why that is... This game is bleeding casual players already.

[Mawlzy]

Because incentives aren't only for the people that already want to do it for flex status, they're also for people that DON'T want to.

And you're okay with this? What you're describing is a job.

[hydralus]

And you're okay with this? What you're describing is a job.

It's more like bait to try and get people to try something new.

[Supersnow845]

The idea that it’s odd to want an incentive and not just play entirely for the intrinsic fun of something is such an odd concept to me because it seems to ignore the fact that much of the enjoyment of achieving something comes from being presented a reward that you really want from said content. Like a game like RuneScape is entirely built in this concept, you don’t do firemaking because it’s intrinsically fun, you do it because you want something out of it that you do get enjoyment out of

A reward isn’t just something to going you into doing content you don’t want to do it is part of its own enjoyment

[Mawlzy]

The idea that it’s odd to want an incentive and not just play entirely for the intrinsic fun of something is such an odd concept to me because it seems to ignore the fact that much of the enjoyment of achieving something comes from being presented a reward that you really want from said content. Like a game like RuneScape is entirely built in this concept, you don’t do firemaking because it’s intrinsically fun, you do it because you want something out of it that you do get enjoyment out of

A reward isn’t just something to going you into doing content you don’t want to do it is part of its own enjoyment

Yeah as I said, I recognize I'm in the minority on this one. Maybe it reflects life experience. When I work I freelance, and only take on projects that are interesting. If something pays (rewards me) well but is not interesting, I simply don't do it.

[hydralus]

Yeah as I said, I recognize I'm in the minority on this one. Maybe it reflects life experience. When I work I freelance, and only take on projects that are interesting. If something pays (rewards me) well but is not interesting, I simply don't do it.

If the only way for you to get a haircut was to take a very specific job you don't like, would you try it then?