Why is Savage and Ultimate the only thing you acknowledge as a raid? Playing into that just to play devil's advocate. DRS. DR Savage. Made to hold 24-48 people.Eureka wasn't get in arena and kill boss, high-end content. You can't really compare gearing up in Eureka to progging 24-man high-end content in PF.
And even if you could, why would you argue that the raid community wasn't built around 8 players? What about every Savage tier and Ultimate released?
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