Chaotic Alliance Raid is a fun fight, but awful content

[Infindox]

They don't know because they're only listening to the ultimate raiders who say that Savage is "midcore" and want to pander to them.

They also pander to those people because when they don't get the content they want or "casual" players get more stuff they want (either extremely casual like rp stuff, grind content for non-battle jobs or even "midcore" content) they go into complete meltdown mode. I'll never forget when they could only have one Ultimate in ShB because of the pandemic, several "famous" raiders had a complete meltdown on social media.

[LibitIncarne]

They also pander to those people because when they don't get the content they want or "casual" players get more stuff they want (either extremely casual like rp stuff, grind content for non-battle jobs or even "midcore" content) they go into complete meltdown mode. I'll never forget when they could only have one Ultimate in ShB because of the pandemic, several "famous" raiders had a complete meltdown on social media.

Never forget that THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE REASON WHY RELICS AREN'T AT A VIABLE IL, back in ARR they complained so hard about people getting good weapons from doing mind-numbing grinds instead of killing a boss that they're only BiS in ultimates or the final patch of the expac

[Lilapop]

Never forget that THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE REASON WHY RELICS AREN'T AT A VIABLE IL, back in ARR they complained so hard about people getting good weapons from doing mind-numbing grinds instead of killing a boss that they're only BiS in ultimates or the final patch of the expac

I don't think anyone wants more of what ARR relics were.

[IOwn92FCHouses]

Never forget that THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE REASON WHY RELICS AREN'T AT A VIABLE IL, back in ARR they complained so hard about people getting good weapons from doing mind-numbing grinds instead of killing a boss that they're only BiS in ultimates or the final patch of the expac

They also pander to those people because when they don't get the content they want or "casual" players get more stuff they want (either extremely casual like rp stuff, grind content for non-battle jobs or even "midcore" content) they go into complete meltdown mode. I'll never forget when they could only have one Ultimate in ShB because of the pandemic, several "famous" raiders had a complete meltdown on social media.

You should probably consider charging people instead of letting raiders live rent free in your heads like this. Neither of you get to speak after the meltdown threads that are the Wuk, healer strike, and graphics update threads, all of which are only months old at best. The lack of self awareness is astounding, but not unexpected.

Or do you find me lumping all casuals together to be egridious? Sorry, just following your lead, kids.

[Lilapop]

You should probably consider charging people instead of letting raiders live rent free in your heads like this. Neither of you get to speak after the meltdown threads that are the Wuk, healer strike, and graphics update threads, all of which are only months old at best. The lack of self awareness is astounding, but not unexpected.

Or do you find me lumping all casuals together to be egridious? Sorry, just following your lead, kids.

Is that not what people do to casuals? Isn't that why that term is used how it is? Or were you being ironic...

[LibitIncarne]

You should probably consider charging people instead of letting raiders live rent free in your heads like this.

Shut up, i do raiding. I'm not someone who makes it my entire personality to the point of alienating people who want to have fun with the game.

Come say this on your main account rather than one that you use to make even more gil from submersibles.

[CNitsah]

They also pander to those people because when they don't get the content they want or "casual" players get more stuff they want (either extremely casual like rp stuff, grind content for non-battle jobs or even "midcore" content) they go into complete meltdown mode. I'll never forget when they could only have one Ultimate in ShB because of the pandemic, several "famous" raiders had a complete meltdown on social media.

Never forget that THOSE PEOPLE ARE THE REASON WHY RELICS AREN'T AT A VIABLE IL, back in ARR they complained so hard about people getting good weapons from doing mind-numbing grinds instead of killing a boss that they're only BiS in ultimates or the final patch of the expac

The whole problem is there because SE only see those 2 extremes and forget everyone in the middle, which are most of the players. That's also something the community tend to do. So let's all take a step back and stop seeing the problem as its 2 extremes, and we will all gain from it.

This exactly why the discussion about midcore players has been everywhere for the past 2 years, despite nobody agreeing on what it means.

[LibitIncarne]

The whole problem is there because SE only see those 2 extremes and forget everyone in the middle, which are most of the players. That's also something the community tend to do. So let's all take a step back and stop seeing the problem as its 2 extremes, and we will all gain from it.

yeah ok let's ignore the glaring issues with the group of people who constantly keep getting outed as being sexual predators and the apparant chokehold they seem to have on the game's balancing

[Kaurhz]

Or do you find me lumping all casuals together to be egridious? Sorry, just following your lead, kids.

To be honest, people already do exactly this, so everything in this thread is par the course.

It's more likely that they know, but for whatever reason don't want to make that content.

They know, and it isn't a case of they don't want to. It's a case of... A decade worth of development has still not taught them that casual and high-end content can be developed and released in tandem. Instead we deal with this constant yoyoing where more longer lasting content that casuals typically dabble in, e.g., relics/exploratory, are always backloaded to the start of the expansion, whilst everything for high-end is front loaded. So what you see is 1 group eating breadcrumbs for around 12 months, and then in the latter 12 months of the expansion from .4 > x.0, those that preference high-end content then also end up eating those breadcrumbs.

[Lilapop]

yeah ok let's ignore the glaring issues with the group of people who constantly keep getting outed as being sexual predators and the apparant chokehold they seem to have on the game's balancing

I think you leaped through a bunch of points to say THAT? Where was that even being discussed?