#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Lorika]

I would be surprised if they aren't aware of it. As you say there's no evidence to say that they don't care and it's silly to say --->last job updates "guys hey they don't care". They're very slow to doing major changes to healers and tanks and they don't communicate their plans until they know what they're doing, so in this case IF they will make changes, we might not know for , what, another year?

I would take it as a positive sign, in a few months we get some indication of plans for reworks, and at that points I don't even expect details.

Must i go back on Yoshi-P "If you want more engaging content, go play Ultimate" that fell flat in the end?
So : no they don't care.

And all the skills "update" that healer got since the release of the 7.0 are all pointing to this fact (it's so out of touch that it's completly ridiculous)

[Tigore]

I may have to agree with Lorika here. I get that the intention was to protest our wants and needs first and I do hope that they are planning something good eventually. However, the protest has been going on ever since Shadowbringers, right? Even if we can prove the devs do still care, I have a feeling the higher up corporate and executives also have to be convinced. Several posters have been trying to say some of the corporate could care less how their product works. They just care if it makes money for them. The main question they may ask could be, "Can we still make money if we ignore these supposed disgruntled healer veterans?"

So ... what do we do now to convince the executives that they will lose money by ignoring us? Unsubbing is one way, although that is more extreme as I said earlier. Are there any actions we can do to convince new healer players the role is boring? You know, by making it "too easy" on them flooding them with WARs and PLDs as one example. Should we also start flooding in more PCT DPS to skip more boss phases and make it even more boring to them? Would our SAM DPS also work too with Tengetsu essentially reducing the need to single target heal DPS?

[Aravell]

There's no need to try and convince people of anything, the moment any healer asks themselves the question of "What else can I do to help my party?", the illusion of the healer role being well-designed will immediately break.

There's already been quite a number of people who say they're new to the healer role and are wondering if it ever gets any fun. There's also been people who were previously fine with the healer role after ShB that are also now fed up after 2 expansions of stagnation and no hint of the 'building from a new foundation' promised by the dev team after the ShB rework.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

There's no need to try and convince people of anything, the moment any healer asks themselves the question of "What else can I do to help my party?", the illusion of the healer role being well-designed will immediately break.

There's already been quite a number of people who say they're new to the healer role and are wondering if it ever gets any fun. There's also been people who were previously fine with the healer role after ShB that are also now fed up after 2 expansions of stagnation and no hint of the 'building from a new foundation' promised by the dev team after the ShB rework.

Now that's just hilarious. I thought the "build from a new foundation" was just a fever dream cooked up by the white knight co. who drank too much koolaids. Is that something that they (devs) actually promised to us? If so, do you remember when this was actually spouted?

[TheDustyOne]

Now that's just hilarious. I thought the "build from a new foundation" was just a fever dream cooked up by the white knight co. who drank too much koolaids. Is that something that they (devs) actually promised to us? If so, do you remember when this was actually spouted?

I don't remember any statements from the devs saying that ShB jobs would be a foundation to build off of, so I just took the statement of "building from new foundations" to be something the players came up with to justify what ShB started.

If someone does have a source from the dev team saying that ShB jobs were a foundation to build off of, mind dropping a link?

[Aravell]

It's been 6 years since ShB launch, so it's hard to say if it's a dev statement or if it's some quote created within the community and passed around for so long that it's accepted as truth.

Although I do vaguely remember some statement about rebuilding jobs, although that might have been aimed at MCH in particular.

[Azurarok]

There's no need to try and convince people of anything, the moment any healer asks themselves the question of "What else can I do to help my party?", the illusion of the healer role being well-designed will immediately break.

I asked myself that after my first run of Sastasha.

[ForsakenRoe]

the moment any healer asks themselves the question of "What else can I do to help my party?", the illusion of the healer role being well-designed will immediately break.

Part of the problem resides in the fact that for a majority of players, 'doing more to help my party' is not something that ever crosses their mind, as long as the game says 'you win' they are happy, even if the 'you win' screen was achieved by pressing literally nothing as they die to the first mechanic and watch the tank solo the boss from 95% to 0% over the course of 10mins

The majority of the problem though, is not that this is possible. I don't particularly care if someone does the bare minimum, I don't pay their sub, hell, if I was in charge of designing the healer kits, I'd actually make the 'bare minimum' even more accessible, why not

Instead, the majority of the issues seem to stem from SE making it so that this 'bare minimum' is so close to the maximum. Like, it's sad to say this, but if a WHM player asks 'how can I contribute more in a fight to help my party', the current best advice is unironically 'step 1: equip Soul of the Astrologian'

[Alice_Rivers]

AST? Not RDM or WAR or PCT?

[Lorika]

AST? Not RDM or WAR or PCT?

RDM?.... Oh you mean my favorite job that is completly forgoten since it was released?
You know, the job that every expansion is only get new (verCool) finisher and some potency buff to not let it fall, DPS Wise, under the Ranged Physical.

Be realiste please.... Healer, Ranged Physical, RDM and SMN are the jobs partially or completly ignored for years now. (except when it come to do a crappy rework)

Only Tanks, Melee DPS, BLM and now Picto matters.