Fine, Bloodwhetting is too OP

[CKNovel]

DPS lack adequate sustain to singularly keep themselves alive

They can sustain themselves.
Dark Knight & 3 DPS run exists, here's one where the Dark Knight doesn't even cast Dark Missionary once and keep Oblation/TBN to themselves. Here's another one for the second Expert dungeon and finally Alexandria where the DRK press slightly more buttons.

And no, before you point out the Pictomancer, Star Prism didn't played a major role, I feel like this group was trying to see the limit of DPS self survival while using the least amount of defensives.

[Terhix]

They can sustain themselves.
Dark Knight & 3 DPS run exists, here's one where the Dark Knight doesn't even cast Dark Missionary once and keep Oblation/TBN to themselves. Here's another one for the second Expert dungeon and finally Alexandria where the DRK press slightly more buttons.

This DRK at the end of last pull before the first boss is down to 20% HP. This isn't sustain, this is mitigating and absorbing enough damage to survive before the trash dies. Doing a speed run of a dungeon in savage gear is not indicative of normal play, and ironically replacing one of the DPS with a healer in this run would vastly increase the odds of DRK needing some healing due to the DPS drop.

If you do a random roulette, and you get players that are not geared or just not very good at pumping out DPS, DRK will need healing period. Compare that to a WAR who can go into the same dungeon by themselves, w2w pull and clear the whole thing alone without any help.

[CKNovel]

This DRK at the end of last pull before the first boss is down to 20% HP. This isn't sustain, this is mitigating and absorbing enough damage to survive before the trash dies. Doing a speed run of a dungeon in savage gear is not indicative of normal play, and ironically replacing one of the DPS with a healer in this run would vastly increase the odds of DRK needing some healing due to the DPS drop.

If you do a random roulette, and you get players that are not geared or just not very good at pumping out DPS, DRK will need healing period. Compare that to a WAR who can go into the same dungeon by themselves, w2w pull and clear the whole thing alone without any help.

Very cool, however the point isn't the DRK but the DPS sustaining themselves.
I took DRK as it has the least healing capabilities on the teammates and this one in particular tried to avoid pressing their party wide mitigation.

[Supersnow845]

Very cool, however the point isn't the DRK but the DPS sustaining themselves.
I took DRK as it has the least healing capabilities on the teammates and this one in particular tried to avoid pressing their party wide mitigation.

I meant the DPS sustaining themselves if they are the target of the bosses agro (ie there is no tank). That’s why i also said the healers have to tank their damage to stay alive. Healers don’t need to lose damage to keep themselves alive during the 1 raidwide per 30 minutes the bosses put out

My point was in a situation where tanks shine in self sustain there can be no check on their power in content that doesn’t have an enrage because if the tank can outheal the damage they take the healers role becomes babying the DPS who also aren’t needed if there is no DPS check

[CKNovel]

I meant the DPS sustaining themselves if they are the target of the bosses agro (ie there is no tank). That’s why i also said the healers have to tank their damage to stay alive. Healers don’t need to lose damage to keep themselves alive during the 1 raidwide per 30 minutes the bosses put out

My point was in a situation where tanks shine in self sustain there can be no check on their power in content that doesn’t have an enrage because if the tank can outheal the damage they take the healers role becomes babying the DPS who also aren’t needed if there is no DPS check

Fair.
Yes, they should take much more damage on tank buster and tank buster should happen during trash pack. Since Shadowbringer we don't have to think about how we mitigate,
The fact that DRK can do this 1 tank 3 DPS run when keeping mitigation should be telling enough. DRK's kit shouldn't be able to allow it to last it a whole dungeon by itself, wether they finish at 50, 20, 1%.

If you look at the run, the group took 5 to 7 vulnerability up per dungeon yet they never got KO'd.
I believe they were trying to find the limit of their survivability while using the least defensives.

[Kabooa]

I believe they were trying to find the limit of their survivability while using the least defensives.

There's a Samurai.

They took vuln stacks to pop Tengetsu when aoe raid wides weren't coming out because it gave them 10 Kenki.

[CKNovel]

There's a Samurai.

They took vuln stacks to pop Tengetsu when aoe raid wides weren't coming out because it gave them 10 Kenki.

While it's true, they only took the majority of vulnerability up in Tender valley. In Alexandria, 2/5, Straighbourg Deadwalk 1/5.
On other content they've cleared I've seen the mitigation being used, so I just assume they went in those dungeons with shit&giggles in mind.

In any cases, Samurai survives 5 vulnerability stacks with 3 from the last boss alone without the need for a Warrior, Paladin or any healer.