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  1. #161
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    Somnolence's Avatar
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I've seen that as well, tanks not moving the boss to ensure DPS can safely reach positionals.
    In my opinion it's most likely because of the general idea the boss will move to the middle on its own and that there's no need to position the boss.

    But that's a player issue.
    Up until now it was glaring design issue with encounters, remains to be seen if it will be fixed in DT.

    Consider TOP P1 looper. Enormous boss sits on the center, still has flanks and rear which can never be accessed as you always are forced to be at certain position for the mechs All tank can do is rotate boss initially to SW which increases statistical like hood of melees getting them with MTRH priority.
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  2. #162
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I've seen that as well, tanks not moving the boss to ensure DPS can safely reach positionals.
    In my opinion it's most likely because of the general idea the boss will move to the middle on its own and that there's no need to position the boss.

    But that's a player issue.
    Whenever A12N pops up in roulettes there's a 70% chance the tank just points Alexander at the raid and it just hits everyone with the cleave, it's very funny.
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  3. #163
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    Grumblecakes's Avatar
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    Mona Valenti
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    I've seen that as well, tanks not moving the boss to ensure DPS can safely reach positionals.
    In my opinion it's most likely because of the general idea the boss will move to the middle on its own and that there's no need to position the boss.

    But that's a player issue.
    I tank about 60% in the game to 40% dps. I do my best to keep bosses postioned properly. In some of these cases it is not even positioning for positionals. When we all have to run from some big AOE or some mechanic where we can't stand in the middle the Tank (WAR in each case) simply takes the damage and never moves. You have the rest of the party and even the offtank in most cases in a corner while the WAR wails on a boss standing in AOEs and whatever else. It is inconsiderate imo. Basically they slow down DPS uptime because they can't die.
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  4. #164
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    Mona Valenti
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Oh, just to add, these are in cases where the boss will follow the tank. Aglaia is an example when Rhalgar does that attack where you stand in the marker because the fist punches the meteors to the other side. I have had tanks not move the boss to the group. Ranged can probably still reach it but melee can't do their main attacks.
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  5. #165
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    Tunda King
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    Ragnarok
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Grumblecakes View Post
    I tank about 60% in the game to 40% dps. I do my best to keep bosses postioned properly. In some of these cases it is not even positioning for positionals. When we all have to run from some big AOE or some mechanic where we can't stand in the middle the Tank (WAR in each case) simply takes the damage and never moves. You have the rest of the party and even the offtank in most cases in a corner while the WAR wails on a boss standing in AOEs and whatever else. It is inconsiderate imo. Basically they slow down DPS uptime because they can't die.
    Healer have much more hard time than tanks because they have something to manage.. tanks don't

    that's why most tanks are just braindead easy and autopilot
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  6. #166
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    Mona Valenti
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    That still doesn't make it cool in my opinion. It's still a team but I guess my teamwork mentality is lame.
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  7. #167
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    Cassia Kaedhan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tunda View Post
    Healer have much more hard time than tanks because they have something to manage.. tanks don't

    that's why most tanks are just braindead easy and autopilot
    There's someone who made a topic that ask the question "what to manage as a Tank", people here provide a lot of answers to that question, perhaps it could illuminate you.

    In all seriousness, don't listen to Tunda, they're either a troll or a heavily missguided individual.
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  8. #168
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    Rui Aii
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    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    There's someone who made a topic that ask the question "what to manage as a Tank", people here provide a lot of answers to that question, perhaps it could illuminate you.

    In all seriousness, don't listen to Tunda, they're either a troll or a heavily missguided individual.
    I am the false messiah
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  9. #169
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    Carighan Maconar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by CKNovel View Post
    There's someone who made a topic that ask the question "what to manage as a Tank", people here provide a lot of answers to that question, perhaps it could illuminate you.

    In all seriousness, don't listen to Tunda, they're either a troll or a heavily missguided individual.
    Yeah, and they have a few alts to circumvent limitations/blocks.

    Just your typical hyper-active forum troll, sadly.
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  10. #170
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    Mona Valenti
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    Returning to bloodwhetting, I was able to solo a lvl 100 map as WAR thanks to bloodwhetting. Yes, it took about 20 min before I got the wrong door in room 3 but this should not be possible at all to do imo. It's 8 person current content maps. Has anyone done a map solo and was it with a different job? I can't imagine any other job could survive like I did as WAR. I was no where close to ever dying.
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