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    You don't know much about people if you think it's possible for a single game to make everyone happy.

    If it was possible, some developer would have figured out the magic combination by now and would have a couple of billion people playing their game.

    None of your options when it comes to Zenos would have made me happy, as an example. What would have made me happy was Zenos staying dead permanently after he killed himself at the Royal Menagerie. That would have made others very unhappy.

    If you enjoy playing a game, then play it. If you don't enjoy playing a game, don't play it. Expecting things to change for your sake is a sure way to end up disappointed.

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    given what I've seen in the forums I am convinced some people will never be happy
    Nah, they're happy. It's the complaining that makes them happy. It's a paradox of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    You don't know much about people if you think it's possible for a single game to make everyone happy.

    If it was possible, some developer would have figured out the magic combination by now and would have a couple of billion people playing their game.

    None of your options when it comes to Zenos would have made me happy, as an example. What would have made me happy was Zenos staying dead permanently after he killed himself at the Royal Menagerie. That would have made others very unhappy.

    If you enjoy playing a game, then play it. If you don't enjoy playing a game, don't play it. Expecting things to change for your sake is a sure way to end up disappointed.
    its possible its just very diffucult to do, to please everyone to a reasonable level its rather simple. But lets say you are right in theory care to share something you view as not being able to please everyone, I bet i can design in a paragraph a way to solve that to please all partys within reason.



    game makers know the magical cure to please most parties on many topics they choose to not use that magic cure because it means more work and time has to be spent

    game developers prefer to simplify things into its either side a group only or side b group only things there are games out there that have please everyone who plays them bg3 for example or diablo 2

    which leads to the biggest problem in gaming today game makers dismiss quality for quantity, thinking large number of things matter when it doesnt. It doesn't matter if there are a million things within the game if they are just carbon copys one another. Doesn't matter if there are only 10 things that require massive grinding if the grind is fun and worth the work the quality is higher.

    Like many characters say it doesnt matter if there is 1 or 10000 trash they are still trash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angeldust View Post
    its possible its just very diffucult to do, to please everyone to a reasonable level its rather simple. But lets say you are right in theory care to share something you view as not being able to please everyone, I bet i can design in a paragraph a way to solve that to please all partys within reason.
    Go for it. Good luck. Give us links to all the other gaming forums you post your ideas in that prove everyone has universal praise and happiness for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Nah, they're happy. It's the complaining that makes them happy. It's a paradox of life.
    Is there a way to criticize a product without being labeled as complaining?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    Is there a way to criticize a product without being labeled as complaining?
    Constructive feedback vs criticism:

    - Is it being done with an understanding of the real problem, or is it mistaken in what the cause of the problem is? (The DDoS threads have a lot of this. Square Enix's servers are fine. What SE needs to do is CHANGE ITS DATA CENTER ISP! because they are the ones causing the lag. Yes you, NTT.)
    - Is the feedback coming from a place of wanting specific improvements, or simply disliking that something was or was not changed? "My rotation got over simplified" or "My rotation is now too clunky" are valid, but then we had a dozen people saying, "My job plays exactly the same as before and I wanted more changes" - so yeah you can't please anyone.
    - Is the feedback done in order to give the person the information they need to make the improvements, or is it being done to hurt them? "I need more engagement in my rotation than just 1 2 3 oGCD" is a constructive criticism. "You guys are stupidheads for dumbing my job down so much" is complaining.
    - Is it being given out of respect for the process, including the timelines involved in AAA game development, or is it demanding changes be made immediately? (I admit, I was guilty of this one with the Pokémon Go avatar changes when I demanded immediate reversion. No, I did not get immediate reversion. I did not get any reversion at all. Sigh.)
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    There is no war in Ba Sing Se
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