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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You mean where I refuted your idea then the other person randomly bought in drama. Yeah that’s totally my fault
    You mean where you took offense to an opinion and think responding the way you did counts as whatever you're now on about? Yeah good luck with that one. And the drama being brought here is on you for responding to it instead of ignoring it and moving on. That's totally a you problem. World doesn't revolve around you. Just like it doesn't revolve around these healers that think having a vendetta against dark knights is something their entitled to, to the point of having their malicious behavior defended at the cost of everyone else's fun and enjoyment. Square Enix has control over whether that continues to be a major problem for FFXIV. The ideal fix is Raw Intuition becoming a tank role ability. Anyone who thinks otherwise isn't looking at the whole picture, and not even bothering to put up their own decent suggestions for fixing dark knight and gunbreaker self sustain. Gunbreaker is not suffering as much as dark knight is, but Heart of Corundum is only a 700p excog and aurora might as well not even exist for how much regen it provides. Probably the only tank cooldown in the game that's actually worse than Oblation. Paladin may not be suffering but the way they get their self healing is clunky. If there has to be a cost for Raw Intuition becoming a role ability, let it be the removal of Aurora, Clemency and Oblation. Boom, easy and quick to code. No additional steps needed outside of maybe animation tweaking so that Raw Intuition fits each tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
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    Do you not see the irony in your comment, I took offence to the suggestion while literally every comment you have ever posted on this thread is “every healers goal in this game is to grief DRK’s and they should be ignored”. Every comment is you just randomly insulting healers for literally zero reason but then you act offended when people call you out for it. I stand by my original comment, if you are so allergic to interaction with the other party members maybe you just aren’t as good of a tank as you think you are because I never have a problem on DRK even when I can’t get LD to proc. You yourself said that “tank invulns should only be used in emergencies” (which is wrong btw), why are you letting it get to an emergency state. Between my mitigation, liberal use of TBN and efficient use of shadow wall and abyssal drain it never gets to “emergency” even with a cure 1 spammer

    I’m not even going to acknowledge your “it’s not the person who bought up the dramas fault it’s your fault for responding to the drama” because that just shows your inherent bias to the other person considering that’s objectively their fault

    I’m not putting up an alternate solution to “male raw intuition a role CD” because it’s such an asinine idea that it doesn’t warrant acknowledgment. DRK isn’t the problem, DRK’s sustain is perfectly fine and is well balanced, with the addition of shadow wall upgrade it has just the right amount of agency over its own health. Making raw intuition a role CD is the worse thing you could do to the tank role. WAR style tanking is boring AF, I want to be in danger, I want to rely on my healer, I want to use all my CD’s not turn my brain off an use an auto clicker on BW every 25 seconds. DRK’s tanking style is well designed and tests your knowledge of their kit. If you want an alternate solution mine is

    “Nerf WAR/PLD/GNB healing and give every tank a semi interesting tanking experience like DRK”

    This has nothing to do with my opinion on tank sustain as a healer, this is me playing WAR and DRK and going “WAR tanking is boring AF because I’m literally never in danger if I know where my BW key is”, I want to actually be challenged as a tank
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Do you not see the irony in your comment, I took offence to the suggestion while literally every comment you have ever posted on this thread is “every healers goal in this game is to grief DRK’s and they should be ignored”.
    Admits he's offended and then proceeds to create a non-cohesive paragraph of pure gibberish that's no where close to being based in reality. Classic drama queen
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    Admits he's offended and then proceeds to create a non-cohesive paragraph of pure gibberish that's no where close to being based in reality. Classic drama queen
    You mean I quoted you saying I was offended, I don’t care what that other person says about me

    Regardless I’d love if you’d actually attempt to refute my points, though that’s apparently a tall ask considering you have not refuted a single point in this entire 20 pages, if you wanted a page for yes men to tell you your solution is flawless you are in the wrong place. Maybe try mainsub on reddit

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    And then he thinks Harrow Hell is a mit check. LOL
    The more I read from you the more I am utterly convinced you are just a really really bad tank that rather than admit they could do better just asks square to buff out any possibility of showing off your lack of skill

    I’ll let you figure out why harrowing hell is a mit check
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 09-13-2024 at 12:41 PM.
    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You mean I quoted you saying I was offended, I don’t care what that other person says about me

    Regardless I’d love if you’d actually attempt to refute my points, though that’s apparently a tall ask considering you have not refuted a single point in this entire 20 pages, if you wanted a page for yes men to tell you your solution is flawless you are in the wrong place. Maybe try mainsub on reddit



    The more I read from you the more I am utterly convinced you are just a really really bad tank that rather than admit they could do better just asks square to buff out any possibility of showing off your lack of skill

    I’ll let you figure out why harrowing hell is a mit check
    I don't need to refute someone who doesn't live in reality. You've refuted yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnjouMaaka View Post
    I don't need to refute someone who doesn't live in reality. You've refuted yourself.
    Okay productive conversation, you’ve convinced nobody on the validity of your solution as me being someone who enjoys the current design of DRK is exactly who you should be trying to convince and I’ve wasted 10 of my daily posts

    I’m so glad we had this conversation, let’s meet for tea sometime
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Okay productive conversation
    Here's your productive convo:

    You have to be absolutely insane to think dark knight is enjoyable in dungeons right now. That's a you problem. Either you are having your buddy who actually heals you no matter how you play the job always join you for dungeons, or you never pull wall to wall when you tank. If you don't pull wall to wall, you are griefing your dps. If you can't survive the wall to wall pull, either you are failing at mitigation, or your healer is failing at healing, with evidence suggesting it to be the latter on this. I do more than just this baby easy mode content where death should always be considered unacceptable because of how baby easy mode it is. Attacking my skill level shows how shallow you are as a person and how ignorant you are of the facts. That's not my responsibility. Square Enix is responsible for policing their game. They have failed at this job by continuing to allow healers to get away with this stuff for far too long. I shouldn't be forced to play warrior in order to satisfy this responsibility of Square Enix. They should address the problem across all tanks. Instead, dark knight has been in this state of allowing the healers a tank to grief in dungeons for 3 expansions. That's what we are trying to address here. The ideal fix is Raw Intuition becoming a tank role ability. If you don't agree with that, it's fine, disagree with it and move on. The goal is to get support for this. Where that support comes from is irrelevant. It's a legitimate suggestion and one that doesn't require developing a new skill for dark knight. I haven't seen you actually suggest anything as a counter suggestion. All I've seen is you trying to go out of your way to refute something you don't agree with because it offends you. Making it personal was your mistake, and makes everything you've said here complete gibberish because you've been unable to set aside your feelings in order to look at this objectively. At this point, I don't think anyone here is going to take you seriously because of how much you've pretty much gone out of your way to refute yourself. I don't need to refute you. I don't need to convince you either. There are plenty who have come here with far more intelligence on the subject matter than you have shown and actually made some of their own suggestions. I'm not here to convince anyone who enjoys the currently suffering design of dark knights in dungeons. I'm sorry, but always ending up in the grave during wall to wall pulls because of the healer is not fun, and should be addressed as a major problem with dark knight's design. I've already stated the damage rotation for the job is perfectly fine. The problem that exists as the core of the topic here is that dark knight has no self sustain. Failing to see that is a you problem.
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