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    Alyko's Avatar
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    Alyko Cautes
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    Tonberry
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    Archer Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by Miki_L View Post
    As for DRK in general. It's a bit overrated by us westerners. Sure, it's still maybe the most important job in the mode, but people don't enact basic counterplay against it, at least my experience in NA. Heard the experience in JP is drastically different where the average skill level is much higher.
    I do PvP. My main is on JP and my alt is on NA.

    The problem is just as bad in JP, if not moreso. I'd say in 75% to 90% of JP matches you're going to have a DRK coordinating Salted Earth pulls through alliance chat and the nature of JP matches is that everyone is going to team up and dump their AoEs when the time comes.

    The problem comes from the fact that, out of your defensive abilities, only Guard can stop draw-ins. If the enemy has a WAR with Primal Scream, that can be countered. If you don't have a job that can escape effectively, you're cooked.

    The solution is to add Arm's Length as a PvP action and have it on a shorter cooldown than Purify. That way people will have a greater chance of countering multiple draw-in attempts.
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    Router Modem
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyko View Post
    The solution is to add Arm's Length as a PvP action and have it on a shorter cooldown than Purify. That way people will have a greater chance of countering multiple draw-in attempts.
    People can't even use Guard until they're dying at 10% HP, why would you expect them to use defensives proactively?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Router View Post
    People can't even use Guard until they're dying at 10% HP, why would you expect them to use defensives proactively?
    The point is to have a hard counter to being pulled around from DRK to DRK like dogs fighting over a chew toy. Whether people are smart enough to press the "don't die" button is a whole other topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by sylphlands View Post
    Using Guard only helps a little when there are multiple classes whose LB will break Guard. Good luck if a DRK doing mega-pulls is paired up with a reaper or dancer, which seems to be the new meta that's raising my blood pressure by 100 points a match.
    That was me on reaper, sorry. I like seeing the BH number go up and seeing the funny people run away :^). Ironically there's a topic on the PvP subforum complaining that DNC LB is too weak.
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    I'desli Sha
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alyko View Post

    That was me on reaper, sorry. I like seeing the BH number go up and seeing the funny people run away :^). Ironically there's a topic on the PvP subforum complaining that DNC LB is too weak.
    LOL it's okay, I can't blame you. I play DNC and I'd be lying if I said it isn't great fun to seduce packs of people and watch them drop. I'm actually surprised people think DNC LB is too weak when it can be sooo effective when timed right.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by sylphlands View Post
    [...]I'm actually surprised people think DNC LB is too weak when it can be sooo effective when timed right.
    You see, the bolded part is what most people had trouble discerning when they're inexperienced with DNC, OR when they're paired w/ groups that doesn't know how to capitalize the free kill window.

    This makes their LB on the borderline useless in a group of inexperienced/uncoordinated players, but deadly on the opposite of the spectrum.
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