DRK Spam in Frontlines

[TalithaSolarien]

Countering a attack from a player is laughable with the current targeting system (esp on Controller). You simply have no chance to target on counter on time.

Countering with Guard is even worse because the game often just stops reacting to inputs for seconds when you are attacked by multiple players.

tl;dr: Frontline is basically trash content that most players just play for the daily XP boost. Serious play is nearly impossible, trying to get the achievements is basically a game of chance

[Jeeqbit]

Countering with Guard is even worse because the game often just stops reacting to inputs for seconds when you are attacked by multiple players.

That isn't my experience, but snapshotting applies to PvP like anything else, so if they attack you prior to its application or prior to its animation or prior to the network exchange between you and the server (ping), then the attacks fully hit you prior to Guard activating. I experience that worse with invulns really, where I can apply Hallowed Ground and still die because things snapshotted before it applied the invuln.

[Aniise]

Frontlines is just...boring right now.
A big reason is that 70% of matches are just the same. Some discord group comes in with 3-4 DRKs and some Dragoons and they obliterate the other teams.
PvP, especially Frontlines, hasn't been balanced for a while. I mean, I don't really expect them to balance PvP jobs when they can't really balance the PvE jobs either. /shrug

[Hallarem]

Pvp balance is not a thing. But then again theres no real incentive for high level pvp because of wintrading and blatant hacking. Its a fun mode to turn your brains of.
But this team has no idea how to balance pvp, but kudos to them that they made every job different. We need more of that in pve.

[OliviaLugria]

Frontlines was a lot more balanced in its previous iteration with distinc CC immunities, aoe damage options being less potent than single target ones, needing to build up resources through combat. It would be nice to bring some of these things back.

[Silaryn]

Countering a attack from a player is laughable with the current targeting system (esp on Controller). You simply have no chance to target on counter on time.

Targeting macros are your friend.

I like to throw the Bind to Target 1 marker on the DRK and then use the macro: /target <bind1>. This lets me target the DRK whenever I want.

[LyraShu]

Eh, part of this is because I am not good at PvP, I will be the first to admit.

But between the stuns and weird timing from when you get attacked vs actually take damage, I hate PvP in this game. The only reason I play it is to get to rank 25 for some cool swag and I am out. I don't even feel like I do terribly while I am in there, but there is a definite curve to learning the differences between the pvp vs pve content. The DRK spam is also something that makes me just want to stop. While, I get that there are ways around it a bit, it seems like you need to preplan for that event or have a group ready for a counter, which doesn't seem likely to happen with just a duty finder frontline pop (to me at least/my experiences).

This is also the only content I disable system sounds in the game while playing. I keep chat open (to keep with the team), but when people start spamming system sounds because they feel like the group isn't bowing to their whims (right or not), then I also start becoming well...annoyed with the content haha.

[Post]

Targeting macros are your friend.

I like to throw the Bind to Target 1 marker on the DRK and then use the macro: /target <bind1>. This lets me target the DRK whenever I want.

I had no idea you could target marked things specifically and I've played the game for years and made plenty of attempts at targeting keybind adjustments and macros because of my general dissatisfaction of how poorly tab works in FFXIV besides.

Thanks a ton!

[All_Nonsense]

PvP balance in frontlines is kinda non-existent because every class uses the same abilities designed specifically for Crystalline Conflict. It's just a quick roulette that gives you xp every day. Just do what makes it fun for you and try to win. I go in as WAR and I pocket support battle high 5 dps or a group of drk knights. I pull people in for the dps to kill and stun the people the drk's pull. I can rarely get kills (only assists) doing that and I don't deal a ton of damage, but I contribute a lot to the team by assisting in the murder fest and making it very difficult for enemy players to escape. And it's fun. And when a drk pulls me in I pop my 10 second shield and always make it out ok. Just find a role you like playing in frontlines and stick to that.

Honestly, rival wings is way more balanced in the sense that once you hit 20 soaring higher stacks you can beat the brakes off of most classes, even melees. And drk are pretty impotent there minus I guess the first clash on mid. You can run around as a mch or smn and cause mayhem the whole time, it's nice for a change.

[Derio]

Its because all of DRKs good stuff is there that they pulled from PVE.