Let's talk about Beastmaster

[Zyph]

thats why theres no dragon avatar with our dragoons it went old school

I'm pretty sure that's just because of the lore, not really because of game breakage.

[Keith_Dragoon]

And then I look at things like Guild Wars where having a menagerie of pets meant that you could chose whatever pet you wanted based on physical appearance, but that rendered them entirely pointless. The focus with those was whatever was the most rare, but even then everyone had them.

I would however support an idea of jug pets/menagerie as long as pets have strengths/weaknesses, thus requiring more thought into which pet you used. Do I want a Dodo pet all the time? Not really, but say I'm going to go fight a lot of beetles (or a giant beetle boss o_o), a Dodo (theoretically) would be strong against beetles. But if I'm going to head to the Shiva boss fight, I wouldn't bring a Dodo because they're weak to Ice and would be destroyed, I'd bring something else.

That kind of strategy/consideration was another thing that made BST fun in XI. Bringing a tiger jug to a Yuhtunga party was crap because tigers were weak to mandies, etc.

And yes, while I think it's probably unlikely, if they upped the strength of mobs to make the game more cooperative/party-based, as well as updated the monster distribution to go with the new maps, then charming wild pets could indeed become useful again. That hope is, again, a bit of a longshot though.

You can do all this with the stable system... what you are asking for is the ecosystem that SE had for XI which is not exclusive to jug pets and the like. With the stable system in WoW a hunter is able to dismiss and call another pet to better handle any given situation. combine that witha monster ecosystem and a Beastmaster can dismiss and call beast a Dodo to fight the beetle swarm.

[Zyph]

Yes, I think if jug pets were balanced it would be preferable to charming wild mobs, even though the latter would still be fun.

Plus if we used jugs it'd give alchemists and culinarians something more to do.

[Roj]

Yes, I think if jug pets were balanced it would be preferable to charming wild mobs, even though the latter would still be fun.

Plus if we used jugs it'd give alchemists and culinarians something more to do.

I can just see SE making a DoL that charms and capture pets and a DoH that makes jugged pets and a DoW that uses them....NO thanks.

Lets just have Carby back and forget this fluffy pet nonsense, err...

[Zyph]

I can just see SE making a DoL that charms and capture pets and a DoH that makes jugged pets and a DoW that uses them....NO thanks.

Lol at first I was thinking of the long lost and fabled Shepherd class, and then I thought of a DoH with a meatgrinder taking all of the shepherd's animals and putting them in a jar.

So yeah, lol, there are better ways to do this. I was thinking jugs full of what the animal you're summoning likes to eat.

[Roj]

Lol at first I was thinking of the long lost and fabled Shepherd class, and then I thought of a DoH with a meatgrinder taking all of the shepherd's animals and putting them in a jar.

So yeah, lol, there are better ways to do this. I was thinking jugs full of what the animal you're summoning likes to eat.

Full of adventurers then?

[Zyph]

Full of adventurers then?

[Zyph]

Also, what are your guy's idea for the lore behind Beastmaster in Eorzea? The more I think about it, the more I like my Wildling idea, but that could just be more tooting my own horn

[Duelle]

You can do all this with the stable system... what you are asking for is the ecosystem that SE had for XI which is not exclusive to jug pets and the like. With the stable system in WoW a hunter is able to dismiss and call another pet to better handle any given situation. combine that witha monster ecosystem and a Beastmaster can dismiss and call beast a Dodo to fight the beetle swarm.

Agreed. Prior to WotLK, pets were pretty much useless, as the hunter raid spec was Marksmanship and pets were squishy. WotLK is where each was given a situational advantage (yes, I used the word situational to refer to the fabled l0lezmodeWoW). Cats were considered pretty good DPS and could buff the group's AGI and STR with Roar of Courage. Wolves could buff the party with Furious Howl and were considered hardier because of their higher base armor and health. Corehounds had decent DPS and Ancient Hysteria (think Haste, but on steroids multiple times over). Spiders could stun and root enemies. And so on.

The reason I favor a stable system is also because I think jugs as a concept are pretty much BS. If you worry about the poor culinarians, I'd implement a food system for BST pets. Sure, you'll grumble about having to buy specific types of foods for each pet (because that aspidochelone likes mushrooms and not steak), but, well, balance. >.>;

[Quesse]

I fully support the implementation of a Solo job.

Considering the entire game will end up being instanced and require 8 member parties, I'm not sure how far you'll get with that.