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    Are there any plans to make DoL less half-assed?

    Recently I've been working on miner and botanist, and I must say...

    it feels like incomplete classes.

    At level 38 you have all skills and you are able to mine all nodes.

    From level 39 to level 50 there is nothing. 11 levels of nothing.

    By level 3 you literally have all your player triggered skills (stealth is level 8, if you want to count that too).

    The only reason to level after 38 is higher stats and to equip the achivement obtained tools.
    There's no advance in how these classes are played either. You have these three very basic skills when you begin and you get higher numbered versions of them as you go up. Nothing new. No change in the game play.

    The only somewhat different thing you get are these passive skills that are triggered at random and automatically enhance your results in different ways.
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    Last edited by Majidah; 04-25-2012 at 08:02 AM.

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    Really ? I thought you got skills at 42.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    Recently I've been working on miner and botanist, and I must say...

    it feels like incomplete classes.

    At level 38 you have all skills and you are able to mine all nodes.

    From level 39 to level 50 there is nothing. 23 levels of nothing
    Grand Company Seals.
    Gunna be lookin' pretty swag with that Twin Adder Escutcheon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matsume View Post
    Gunna be lookin' pretty swag with that Twin Adder Escutcheon...
    Is that so? If you're referring to supply/provisions that's hardly reliable.
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    Last edited by Victor; 04-25-2012 at 08:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    Is that so? If you're referring to supply/provisions that's hardly reliable.
    Well you absolutely need the Lily and Serpent ring and earring, otherwise you may as well not wear the Escutcheon...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majidah View Post
    From level 39 to level 50 there is nothing. 21 levels of nothing.
    50-39=11, but i get your point, currently no reason to get past level 38 for MIN and BTN, hell when I hit 35 on my fisher I was catching stuff about 99% of the time in grade 5 waters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masamune1004 View Post
    50-39=11, but i get your point, currently no reason to get past level 38 for MIN and BTN, hell when I hit 35 on my fisher I was catching stuff about 99% of the time in grade 5 waters.
    Man I knew I'd mess up the maths. lol

    But yeah. They could maybe fill up those 10 levels with the botanist garden... skills for that. But even then it'd feel totally out of nowhere.

    IMO they should rehaul and redestribute the skills for DoL. And add some depth into these classes.
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    I don't really see how much more of an improvement they need. I mean they go out, farm and come back home. Add a little action to the dol class. Maybe some explosions when you land a perfect hit. Maybe some DoL battle music when things get intense. I dunno.

    Did I call the joke line or something?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nullie View Post
    I don't really see how much more of an improvement they need. I mean they go out, farm and come back home. Add a little action to the dol class. Maybe some explosions when you land a perfect hit. Maybe some DoL battle music when things get intense. I dunno.

    Did I call the joke line or something?
    I don't know, I'm not a game developer. But its quite a shallow design and the skills aren't even evenly distributed.

    Botanists are getting a garden to care for in 2.0, that's a step in the right direction.

    They could make the mini game more complex at least as we do higher tier nodes, and they could give us skills to handle them. Also more decoy skills other than stealth.
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