Quote Originally Posted by Teia View Post
When I was leveling Monk 40+, the party decided to go to Natalan, which lags me unfathomably badly. The end result was that I'd routinely target a mob and try to engage it, only to discover it was already dead. Like you, I might as well have been PLed just based on how little I actually contributed—not that I'd have fared better even if I wasn't lagging, since the BLMs did most of the killing anyway.

Then again I don't really use MNK for much outside of running around town because of Fists of Wind. But I'm reasonably confident that if the situation called for it, I could pick it up and play it competently in short order.
I was puller in my Natalan party cause that was only way i could land a hit on stuff. I pulled and before I got back to camp BLMs had already killed what I pulled and we continued this until 50. I learned how to run around agroing stuff if that helps in end-game.

@Yuri: again those people would have been lolDDs with or without PL. Most of what you posted about the abilities fall within the common sense category.

Example: A friend of mine whose character was shipped off to Ragnarok remade another one on Hyperion. I PL'd him to like 36ish and that was higher then his first character ever was. Him and his fiance hit 50 while I was out of town, he did Ifrit with us last night for his first time. He listened to the run down, and ran 2 flawless fights, never got hit once outside of his blowback move.

After he left we replaced him with a random who was claiming to be a Ifrit Vet, came in start trying to call the shots (full LS run) and in the end he died about 3-4 times while NOBODY else was hit by anything. He lacked common sense and cooperation. My friend on the other hand had this and even though he was PL'd over halfway to cap he performed better then most at his job, using the right skills at the right time, stacking buffs and comboing all which you claim can only be done by people who don't PL.

Bad player will always be bad regardless of the method they choose to level.