Before you power level noobs

[YuriSan]

I remember when:

-Yuri San: Dude i don't want to be PL'd sorry man. you guys go ahead without me.
-Dude making a pt to go get PL'd: Don't be a snob, all high and mighty Yuri!

Now:

-Yuri San: Alright guys listen all MNK use Keen Flurry and Quelling Strike & Blindside before doing Howilng Fist
If you go in red or even yellow hate do Chameleon, make sure to heal yourself too with Second Wind, don't expect WHMsto allways get you to 100%, Oh and start with Invigorate often, understood??

-Guys that used to make pts to go get PL'd: HUH!? *scratching their heads crosseyed*

And thats how peeps get stuck in parties with PL'd noobs in which they will need to do 85% of the damage till mob is dead while the rest "lolDDs" share the other 15%
(Not to mention PL'd tanks lmao)

Cause well... knowing the skills is one thing, knowing how to move and what to do when is another.
To get to know a job very well u need to get comfy with it,
AND!!! Thats exactly what insane amounts of grinding will do for ya.
You will refine your actions and movement during the grinding sessions.

[Raikki]

To get to know a job very well u need to get comfy with it,
AND!!! Thats exactly what insane amounts of grinding will do for ya.
You will refine your actions and movement during the grinding sessions.

This is what anti-PL crusaders actually believe.

The truth is that no part of grinding in this game requires enough skill to learn anything. A lot of jobs you could successfully level 1-50 just by running up to mobs, switching to active mode, and waiting for auto-attacks to kill them. You can throw in a few weapon skills if you want to speed things up since pressing a weapon skill button isn't exactly a "skill". Yes, it'd be a little slower than knowing how to play your class to its fullest, but the fact that our baseline for "skill needed to hit level 50" is this low means the extra abilities employed by people to speed it up don't actually need to be performed skillfully to succeed.

The solution is simple. Make actual skill barriers in leveling beyond 50 when the cap is increased. Until then, let's stop pretending that PL'd players are missing out on some kind of learning experience. The people who learn how to play are the people who actually read the descriptions of their abilities.

No, I wasn't PL'd, and I can almost guarantee that I put vastly more time into grinding than anyone here who's complaining about PL. If you're a reasonably decent player, the fact that the leveling process had nothing to do with making you a good player would be obvious to you.

[YuriSan]

This is what anti-PL crusaders actually believe.

The truth is that no part of grinding in this game requires enough skill to learn anything. A lot of jobs you could successfully level 1-50 just by running up to mobs, switching to active mode, and waiting for auto-attacks to kill them. You can throw in a few weapon skills if you want to speed things up since pressing a weapon skill button isn't exactly a "skill". Yes, it'd be a little slower than knowing how to play your class to its fullest, but the fact that our baseline for "skill needed to hit level 50" is this low means the extra abilities employed by people to speed it up don't actually need to be performed skillfully to succeed.

The solution is simple. Make actual skill barriers in leveling beyond 50 when the cap is increased. Until then, let's stop pretending that PL'd players are missing out on some kind of learning experience. The people who learn how to play are the people who actually read the descriptions of their abilities.

No, I wasn't PL'd, and I can almost guarantee that I put vastly more time into grinding than anyone here who's complaining about PL. If you're a reasonably decent player, the fact that the leveling process had nothing to do with making you a good player would be obvious to you.

Ya you can kill stuff with auto attack OR! you can actually get to know what can kill it better and faster,
you can evolve into a player by yourself without anyone telling you what to do via grinding.
As you mentioned reading the descriptions is key. the vast majority though does not (sadly) do that.
All they want is to get to 50 and be able to wear that shiny af gear or whatever, be cool looking and pose in the city
(thats endgame enough for 'em)
What happens in reallity tho is that they have all the 50s in the world but they know very little about them. They are then tyhrowing themselves into primal battles along with expirienced players and screw up 99% of the time.
Thats understandable though cause they never practiced that class.
All they did was get something to 50 then rushed to get another thing to 50 without getting to know the first thing they leveled. Just jumped from one 50 to another.
They never really played the class for a good amount of time.
What? they gonna practice DRG or WHM in a primal battle or a dungeon?
Thats not practice. thats either lying dead on the ground throughout the whole fight while the expirienced players beat the boss. or (if they lucky) having a person that really cant do any more tutorial runs and just wants to farm the boss.
Now you think a person that never played a class knows it well enough as a person that played it for a month straight?
Cause as i mentioned PL'd peeps just rush through jobs. not really playing them or anything. just standing adding and ousting someone while watching Family Guy and slurping cereal.

It would be awesome if people actually did what you say.
Read the descriptions and investigate for themselves.
But that is far from the truth.

Also you arent doing pickups, you got your group. and thats just amazingly awesome.
However start doing pickups via /sh....
Then we will talk again about what PL is doing to people.

Teia Rabishu guy. don't brag, there are exeptions too and i am happy t say i have come across some of them. if you are one good for you