Frontlines sucks Ultra megathread

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As an individual, you really don't have a solution in a match like this. Your actions are completely irrelevant. We can bemoan the fact that the average skill level of most FL players is low, but that doesn't magically improve it. And it's not a question of "blaming" the premades.

Apparently these eight individuals, on finding their two premades on the same team, concluded correctly they had no need of their 16 team-mates, and communicated only with each other. They massacred the opposition. Could that opposition have put up more of a fight? Yes, of course, but can we please live in the real world? Are 48 randos on Dynamis going to stand a chance against an 8-stack on voice? Of course not. That is precisely why these premades visited Dynamis!

I believe everyone here wants the skill of players in FL to increase. As you note, over the last two years that hasn't happened. Why is that? Do we just continue hoping it will, and citing guides the vast majority of players will never read? Are such players likely to seek out help when the "PvP community" continues to exhibit such contempt towards them?

Without significant modifications to the mode, there is no reason to suppose anything will change.

Points 1 and 2: I do agree that you don't have any solution in this particular match. And that single handed inexperienced actions are completely irrelevant. But these views are very shortsighted of the bigger picture of increasing the quality of matches on your DC over time. Player skill/experienced isn't gained instantly from reading a guide. It takes a lot of time, practice and willingness to learn in combination with said guides. And in the case of new data centers, it is also a communal effort to collectively raise the bar for everyone on the data center.

All of the resources I've mentioned were built up over time by an entire community of contributors among each data center. As more individual players take it upon themselves to improve their own play, the skill floor will gradually raise as well. People on Aether used to server travel across all the servers on the data center promoting PvP discords, events, guides, etc. for years. People joined up over time and the entire skill level of the data center increased. Eventually, pre- and early ShB there were so many commanders that they'd legit be fighting eachother for the dorito marker to lead the alliance. And as I've mentioned before, 48 randoms can indeed steam roll 8 players on voice. All it takes is a single experienced commander and a baseline level of skill from the rest of the alliance of randoms.

Are any such efforts being made on Dynamis? If not, why not? The hard work has already been done. The guides are already made. Disseminate and promote them within your data center.

Point 3: There are definitely people who will help you learn if you directly and personally reach out (myself included). However I do agree the general NA community tends to be just as toxic as they are helpful. I say this with the caveat of only being in the PvP Paisa discord. There are great people in there but its also used a lot for post-match ranting about how bad everyone else on your team was in Feast/CC which is definitely off-putting for new players especially with how fragile the XIV community is in general. I made a few great friends from the discord and never needed to join one again, so even if you don't like discord groups they can be great for finding training partners if nothing else.