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    Liz Ard
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle_Jafar View Post
    I haven't played DT yet. But didn't SB have a strong female leader also? I don't recall anyone making star wars comparison or crying 'woke.'
    Adding to the comparison of Wuk Lamat and Lyse, it all comes down to worse writing.

    It's actually something that a lot of (mostly western) media is getting wrong again and again lately in an attempt to write "strong" female characters, but getting the pendulum way too much in the other extreme and just writing them badly. Now a lot of writers feel like their female protagonist has to be flawless...and flawless characters are either boring, annoying or frustrating.

    Lyse bothered a lot of people because of her personality and how different she was from the Yda we knew, and because we didn't think she had a place in that fight (which is actually part of the story, and she gets things wrong and learns from this). She had flaws, she got things wrong, and she learns, and we can see her behaving differently at the end of the story. There was a character arc there, and there was inner conflict.

    Wuk Lamat doesn't get anything wrong. The "flaws" she has at the beginning is trying to appear stronger than she is, and feeling inferior to her brothers, which are both things she tells us directly how she feels, and then tells us she got over it, but we never see it being an actual problem, or an "aha" moment where she realizes through actions that she doesn't have to feel this way. She is the same character from beginning to end, except now we get less of the repeat sea sickness joke, and she talks more about loving the people because that's her thing that her brothers don't have, I guess.
    These "flaws" never cause her any actual problems, and she never suffers for it. They never steer the story in a different direction, and she never makes any bad decisions based on those beliefs. Her "flaw" is not realizing how perfect and right she already is.

    Doesn't help that she is there all the time constantly, and everyone around her is only there to agree with her, worry about her, or say how much they like her to the point they don't even have a personality anymore.
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    Last edited by chizLemons; 08-14-2024 at 10:24 PM.