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  1. #51
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    Syhrwyda Holskansawyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Selova View Post
    These kind of posts are honestly wild and only do more to prove the point on just how spoiled FFXIV players actually are. Y'all were so unbelievably spoiled with Shadowbringers story that you are treating DT's slow build up setting up another decade long story like they released a completely broken and buggy expansion or something.
    It is over 30 hours long. I do not know if you are an anime watcher, but a typical series has 12-13 episodes of 24 minutes each. This is not a pilot episode, this is the runtime length of a show's whole first 5 seasons! Waving around the slow buildup argument that we shouldn't expect them to already be delivering something good and that they'll get to the good part of the story later is disingenuous.
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  2. #52
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    Yoshi P doesn't need to make any statements and realistically what will happen going forward is they take player feedback and move the MSQ in a direction players want.
    Yoshi P stated beforehand Dawntrail is a starting point, that they'd drop multiple things and see where player interest goes.
    So judging by player feedback I imagine we won't be seeing much of Tuliyollal anymore, Wuk Lamat goes the way of Aymeric, Hien, and Lyse and only shows up occasionally in unvoiced roles providing backup with their armies.
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  3. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyrilona View Post
    It is over 30 hours long. I do not know if you are an anime watcher, but a typical series has 12-13 episodes of 24 minutes each. This is not a pilot episode, this is the runtime length of a show's whole first 5 seasons! Waving around the slow buildup argument that we shouldn't expect them to already be delivering something good and that they'll get to the good part of the story later is disingenuous.
    I never mentioned anything about the actual quality of the story given how divisive it is between people, some people like it some don't. Regardless of how you personally feel towards DT's story claiming that it's somehow "damaging the brand" and how Yoshi P. needs to make some kind of PSA apologizing to the player base is honestly ridiculous. I refuse to believe anyone can sit there with a straight face and type up something that ludicrous.
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  4. #54
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    - Questionable job balance
    - no reason to play white mage in raids
    - divisive story
    - 2 new DPS
    - normal content has friction once more
    - raid content looks promising

    Welcome back Stormblood
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by NishaSetsuya View Post
    - Questionable job balance
    - no reason to play white mage in raids
    - divisive story
    - 2 new DPS
    - normal content has friction once more
    - raid content looks promising

    Welcome back Stormblood
    I agree but I don't think that we will see Shadowbringers again
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by NishaSetsuya View Post
    - Questionable job balance
    - no reason to play white mage in raids
    - divisive story
    - 2 new DPS
    - normal content has friction once more
    - raid content looks promising

    Welcome back Stormblood
    Stormblood East part story wise was generally nice, it was the Ala Migho part the one that was done really dirty, plus the job design overall then was the best we have seen even if it wasnt perfect

    DT not only has a garbage story from start to end with some brief sparks that are actually good sprinkled here and there but also the job design is basically ShB 3.0, only the fight design as improved which wasnt that hard considering how bad it was before

    Low stakes are not excuses for such level of mediocrity in the storytelling. Heavensward was basically a Dragon-human conflict reduced just to Ishgard (Tural is basically the entire American continent) and they made one of the best stories, plus ARR had to basically introduce people to the entire setting and despite having a "simple" story it was reasonably well done. Today it feels kinda bad because the gameplay at low levels is garbage with everyone using just a few skills due to everything locked until higher levels
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    Last edited by Bhearil; 07-21-2024 at 12:54 AM.

  7. #57
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    Yoshi P isn't going to say anything aside from a blanket "we're responding to feedback". I'm not sure what people are expecting, major corporations generally aren't like "sorry you guys hate our story, our bad, we'll do better".
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  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volgia View Post
    That's not damage, that's just divisive opinions, and the MSQ isn't the only measure of an expansion. Endwalker had a good story, and it was to me the worst expansion contentwise. I almost didn't get Dawntrail because I thought we would have more of the same. Did people look back at Stormblood and Lyse and say "will Yoshi-P please address the irreparable damage this expansion has given the FF brand?"

    Like I'm having a blast playing through Dawntrail, especially looking forward the raid scene next month.
    Having a blast doing the same rehashed content (with less content and less focused on combat/actions etc) since HW?

    My sides.
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  9. #59
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    They probably won't address the story directly.

    The story is not good, but it is not that bad where they need to directly address it. They'll just see what people liked, what they didn't like and go from there. [Edit: at most, they'll comment vaguely on how they overestimated the reception of Wuk Lamat, and thought she would be a well-liked character]

    I know the story matters, but honestly what matters more is the content going forward, as that is what will give a lot of people staying power, and it is what people will be spending the majority of their time doing.

    Not saying the story isn't important, but it isn't the most important factor IMO.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 07-21-2024 at 01:26 AM.

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    The story is fine.
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