Rphys: why slow walk casts (ala pvp) aren't a solution

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I am actually having a really hard time even understanding where this analogy comes from and what it is supposed to demonstrate?

I can reiterate again, that my point is all about people that want to change a role so radically that it becomes something else entirely. SE has done this too with various jobs and alienated all their enjoyers in the process. Again, if you don't enjoy what the role has always been so far (HW excepted, granted but most players hated it), why are you even playing/maining it? Why do you think a lot of old MCH mains feel really shitty about the rework in SHB? Because that's exactly what you're trying to accomplish here. Just in this thread there is already multiple players that voiced their opposition to it. And suddenly backpedaling and saying "it would only be for bard", then what does it solve? DPS output problems on BRD, but not on the other ones then?

You can go back to what the jobguide website says, it's far from telling the whole story of the role. And again, ARR BRD has never been a caster, it's not because you had one cast here that it made it suddenly a caster DPS, no more than it makes current SMN or SAM a caster DPS.

I do not disagree that a paradigm where there is only a formless role of ranged, which includes jobs with various amounts of cast uptime, some almost none, some chokefull of it, can make sense in a design perspective though. But there remains the fact of the alienation of a part of the playerbase and what for? On top of it, I find it amusing that it's suddenly ok when we're talking about rphys, but as soon as someone mentions that some melee DPS jobs could have no positionals, it's the biggest outrage on earth from every melee main.