With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[SwadTheFrog]

That is actually night and day from what we got here. I wonder if the higher pitched tone just went out of range for that level of anguished yelling.

...Not to be that person, but every other role on that reel is either a man, I *think* a goblin - which I'd note was pretty damn high pitched, and a DQ Imp. Are there other roles that Sena took that portray a woman? Because if not, atop of the forced accent, then unfortunately the issue is kind of clear.

[klu]

People are defiantly taking their dislike of a character too far.

No. Their dislike of the character is merely amplified by the jackbooted mob eyeballing you and daring you to be critical of that character.

The way they always do, when they're on a tear about their preferred groups.

[ZephyrMenodora]

...Not to be that person, but every other role on that reel is either a man, I *think* a goblin - which I'd note was pretty damn high pitched, and a DQ Imp. Are there other roles that Sena took that portray a woman? Because if not, atop of the forced accent, then unfortunately the issue is kind of clear.

The "Ron" narrator sounded like a woman, but in an even-keeled tone that didn't require any extremes.

The last character that was a man actually sounded really good and wonder if that is her recent voice or pre-transition. If that is her starting point I can see female roles being a struggle.

[Burmecia]

You're making a poor case that someone is a bad person because they are a bigot by also being bigoted to her and other trans people.

people were disappointed by her poor performance as voice of expansions' main character. we can try to find "actual culprit" by guessing around who was the director or casting director or whatever. but: as consumers/players, we really experience artists performance first, lik in context of videogame cutscene, her voice talent work. no one had reason to look closer to miss Bryer if there was nothing wrong with her performance.

then people found her rude, or tactless, or double standard-y, or unprofessional takes on whatever on social media. we can postulate how whatever one posts to their private social media account shouldn't matter. but that's not how it works. we know that, even sena bryer knows that. if she, somehow, doesn't she shouldn't be on social media.

half-ok adjusted adults don't go around running and crying about """death threats""" on the internet. if someone's gut is truly and honestly telling them they are in real effin danger, they don't act like miss bryer is acting. and if authorities think someone is danger in situation where miss bryer is now, their instructions aren't likely: oh yeah keep on spamming your social media!
her behavior is actively making her look pretty bad in my eyes, but since that is off-topic i can't be assed to comment further. i am not interested in anyone's takes on intersexed boxers' situations, or whatever she has recently used as her hobbyhorse to veer back to transwomen. beyond awkward transition, if anything i say.

i see her, by her behavior, narrowly above imageboard troll. old internet used to say something about feeding those.
she has already joined the cohort of other social media/content creator heroes who kept so much noise about their death threats years ago - and who are still very very much alive, holding "wedding themed 40 yo birthday parties alone :-)))"

[SwadTheFrog]

The "Ron" narrator sounded like a woman, but in an even-keeled tone that didn't require any extremes.

The last character that was a man actually sounded really good and wonder if that is her recent voice or pre-transition. If that is her starting point I can see female roles being a struggle.

True on the tone, but I think Ron's meant to be a guy - looks to be the usual anime type where it's this guy witth the soft-spoken nerdy tone. The tone of your voice is sadly a genuine limitation in how many other things are. My voice isn't remotely deep, and since I actually DM quite a bit, I've practiced in an attempt to voice NPCs that aren't just men, but it really does not work on my end. Hell, I can do /gnolls/, but not women. Even in a casual game setting, so professionally, it sadly just makes things far worse. There are absolutely people that can do it, but everything I've seen indicates that Sena can't, at least not without being able to emote much at all.

I don't think the VA work on the on the other roles is bad at all - fine to good, honestly, but someone like Wuk is just not remotely workable. Or Wukable, if you would.

[FlowerMilk]

So true. These people will always find an outlet where they can rant and be hateful, and it's always somewhere that's poorly moderated since most other places would ban them instantly. It just stinks that it has to be these forums, but whatever, hopefully this won't last for the entire expansion.

In like a month their favorite Youtuber will tell them some other game is doing "woke DEI" and they will go throw a tantrum about that game instead, don't worry.

[ZephyrMenodora]

True on the tone, but I think Ron's meant to be a guy - looks to be the usual anime type where it's this guy witth the soft-spoken nerdy tone. The tone of your voice is sadly a genuine limitation in how many other things are. My voice isn't remotely deep, and since I actually DM quite a bit, I've practiced in an attempt to voice NPCs that aren't just men, but it really does not work on my end, even in a casual game setting, so professionally, it sadly just makes things far worse. There are absolutely people that can do it, but everything I've seen indicates that Sena can't, at least not without being able to emote much at all.

I don't think the VA work on the on the other roles is bad at all - fine to good, honestly, but someone like Wuk is just not remotely workable.

Yes I wasn't sure what that character was supposed to be. But if I had my eyes closed and had to guess, I'd guess a woman for that one.

Meanwhile, the final male voice was actually quite good - I think there is talent to be found with Sena but not for the character they chose. I don't think Sena wants to voice male characters - I have no idea since she included it on her demo. But she probably could have gotten a lot of praise over either a female character with a more limited role that didn't require yelling or too much emotion, or a male character.

[WaifuLoli]

For example this is her reel for this year https://youtu.be/5eDi9aJzs4w?si=Wd5sWJUCb4JGgPmX&t=34

This begs the question why they would cast someone who's good at doing both deep and higher pitched male voices, to the role of a latino female. The polar opposite of their ability.
I don't know if she had prior work outside of this reel that showcased feminine voice acting, but everything here combined with the poor performance in game is just telling me this was a direct miscast, and I'd like to believe she was cast because of either nepotism or her being trans, only because of the fact that Hollywood and many entertainment avenues are well known to cast people based on superficial aspects instead of their ability.

Ironically, Sena herself quote tweeted about this exact issue, which in itself is ironic considering the role she was cast for vs. her skills in acting. That's the last person who should be attacking that issue.

[SwadTheFrog]

Yes I wasn't sure what that character was supposed to be. But if I had my eyes closed and had to guess, I'd guess a woman for that one.

Meanwhile, the final male voice was actually quite good - I think there is talent to be found with Sena but not for the character they chose. I don't think Sena wants to voice male characters - I have no idea since she included it on her demo. But she probably could have gotten a lot of praise over either a female character with a more limited role that didn't require yelling or too much emotion, or a male character.

Again ,it's the unfortunate case where you just run into genuine biological issues. I'm absolutely happy to agree that - putting aside the...at best /dubious/ tweets that have drawn a lot of ire for good reason, Sena can put out good work when the role permits it. IMO, if they want to voice female characters that don't require much yelling or emotion, a good pick would be AI or Robots, you can turn limitations into a strength there - genuinely.

[ZephyrMenodora]

Again ,it's the unfortunate case where you just run into genuine biological issues. I'm absolutely happy to agree that - putting the...at best /dubious/ posts that have drawn a lot of ire for good reason, Sena can put out good work when the role permits it. IMO, if they want to voice female characters that don't require much yelling or emotion, a good pick would be AI or Robots, you can turn limitations into a strength there - genuinely.

Even within roles matching our biological sex, there are certain tones I couldn't reach even if I had a shred of acting talent.

It feels like the casting directors really did Sena a disservice. They should have cast in a better suited role. I think she's good enough to get work, but wow they did her zero favors here.