With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[Lorika]

Yeah they're not even pretending that this is a discussion on criticism of the VA anymore lol, they're just straight up admitting it's about their hatred of queer people. Great job.

Allo,is there something between your ears? *echo* oh, i guess not.

[Boblawblah]

Yeah they're not even pretending that this is a discussion on criticism of the VA anymore lol, they're just straight up admitting it's about their hatred of queer people. Great job.

You said something similar to me once, but I appreciate what you're trying to do. I think what you have to see though is that it's simply not worth engaging with these people (yah, "these people" ).

Report and move on. You'll notice that they get themselves in a frenzy whenever someone dares to challenge their nonsense. What happens when they're left to their own is that they eventually end up just going so far off topic with insane rants about minorities that it becomes very easy to simply report them. No engagement needed.

There is no conversation to be had here, and as frustrating as it is to see outright hate speech being allowed on the official forums, you can't fight it if the mods refuse to intervene.

[Merrnryn]

End of the day. She did a job. It's not always the VA's fault at things. Look at the director, and direction they are given.
Personally I think she did a great job that fit the character's actions.
However, that said. It's NEVER okay to attack and threaten an ACTOR for doing a JOB. FULL STOP.

I don't care about valid criticism, but look at every factor involved.

I've seen amazing VA's do terrible jobs on certain characters. Not because they suck, but the direction they were given. They are told to go out of their vocal range, they are told this or that, and the performance suffers.

[phandaal]

Yeah they're not even pretending that this is a discussion on criticism of the VA anymore lol, they're just straight up admitting it's about their hatred of queer people. Great job.

To be clear, and I can only speak for myself:

What I feel is frustration for a sub-par product that I believe was delivered in part because someone who had no business being in the role got that role, and annoyance for being told that the sky is red when I can see that it is blue.

If this actor had done a good job, nobody would have noticed. Since they did not do a good job, people went and figured out why they were there in the first place.

Even if people really do just not like gay people (since apparently you can read their minds), that is a fact separate from whether or not Sena got hired for being transgender.

[Maxilor]

Oh dear heavens above, here we go again....

"It was me Barry! I sent those twitter messages to Sena Bryer at super sonic speeds so the FFXIV General Forum will be flooded with non-stop culture war threads about her!"

[Midare]

Allo,is there something between your ears? *echo* oh, i guess not.

Self-awareness is not the forte of those who love to throw names around but complain when names are thrown back.

[Donoman]

Yeah they're not even pretending that this is a discussion on criticism of the VA anymore lol, they're just straight up admitting it's about their hatred of queer people. Great job.

I know, I gasped after reading that. Hopefully they get some help.

You said something similar to me once, but I appreciate what you're trying to do. I think what you have to see though is that it's simply not worth engaging with these people (yah, "these people" ).

Report and move on. You'll notice that they get themselves in a frenzy whenever someone dares to challenge their nonsense. What happens when they're left to their own is that they eventually end up just going so far off topic with insane rants about minorities that it becomes very easy to simply report them. No engagement needed.

There is no conversation to be had here, and as frustrating as it is to see outright hate speech being allowed on the official forums, you can't fight it if the mods refuse to intervene.

So true. These people will always find an outlet where they can rant and be hateful, and it's always somewhere that's poorly moderated since most other places would ban them instantly. It just stinks that it has to be these forums, but whatever, hopefully this won't last for the entire expansion.

[Zackneifein]

I see the same white knight in action.

Ok, time for a bit of "history".

In my country gay couple can officialy and legally marry. They have the exact same rights and advantage as an hetero couple. And this since the 17/05/2013 ...

Well, I know now that you are French.
Far right, that isn't even against gay marriage, was kick in the butt during the last election where they were supposed to win with a large margin, so calm down, France isn't close to be in the state that you describe.

And this topic has gone too far since last I was there.

• Sena performance is quite poor from what I have seen on multiple key cutscenes (I play in French and Japanese).
• The direction wasn't good either (and I think they deserve far more critizism that Sena on the matter)
• Wuk Lamat isn't a good character, and that make the situation even worse for Sena since some hate for Wuk Lamat is directed to Sena.
• Online, everyone that publicly defend it's opinion will receive insult and death threat, even me (after decades of being on internet) have received some and i'm a nobody. So there is no reason to doubt that she received some and also no reason to think that it will stop just by saying it's not "right", because internet is internet.
• Theories on how she got this role won't go nowhere : yes it's strange and all tuliyollal key characters have latin VA except her, but maybe she was extremely good during the audition.
• Sena take on Bridget VA was stupid, and she was basically giving the stick to be beaten with because she herself basically said "woman and transwoman aren't the same so a transgender should be the one voicing a transgender character".
• Bridget isn't transexual. And Japan has it's own culture about all this, that shouldn't be compared to the western trans situation.

[Lorika]

Self-awareness is not the forte of those who love to throw names around but complain when names are thrown back.

Sincerily, i don't care.
If they want to invalidate all valid crisisms and warning as "homophobia" they can do itfor all i care.

After all, it's not me who lit the fire and will get the backdraft in the end.

Far right, that isn't even against gay marriage, was kick in the butt during the last election where they were supposed to win with a large margin,

When you don't know the context, you should'nt assume thing.
The reason the right lost is simple : they are pulling the same sh*t that i was talking in this very same post for years now. People are fed up with them and thei crappy attitude.
They got their punishement.

Oh, BTW, i was voting right before Melanchon and the LFI party started stirring sh*t

[Sivante]

"It was me Barry! I sent those twitter messages to Sena Bryer at super sonic speeds so the FFXIV General Forum will be flooded with non-stop culture war threads about her!"

Every time I see you post something I enjoy it. +1 to you. Big Lala energy. /pet, etc.