With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[FlowerMilk]

i have hunch that it's wasn't so black and white, and those who did get offended were offended by people meaning:
"i don't like that fact that they picked mtf for this female character role, actor's vocal range is noticeably limited while the writing portrays character who would benefit her actor to be able to portray wider arrange of emotions and tone. actor plays the role oddly monotonically. i can't understand what the casting director was thinking!"

and then in the minds and eyes of some people all that looks like: "something something transphobia"

which ironically would made it depressingly black and white

You know people can just open up the link and see people calling her a man with their own eyes? Why even bother pretending like people can't see it for themselves?

[Isala]

You know people can just open up the link and see people calling her a man with their own eyes? Why even bother pretending like people can't see it for themselves?

Yes, yes. People calling the VA "Woke Lamat", or "Wuk LaMan" or whatever, still doesn't change the fact that Sena is a terrible person too.

[FlowerMilk]

Yes, yes. People calling the VA "Woke Lamat", or "Wuk LaMan" or whatever, still doesn't change the fact that Sena is a terrible person too.

You can dislike her as a person without being transphobic.

[Isala]

You can dislike her as a person without being transphobic.

Cool, can Sena stop being cisphobic and misogynistic? Cause until then, I see no point in caring that they're getting exactly what they dish out. All I see here is hate getting hate. There is no moral high ground to be had here regardless.

[FlowerMilk]

Cool, can Sena stop being cisphobic and misogynistic? Cause until then, I see no point in caring that they're getting exactly what they dish out. All I see here is hate getting hate. There is no moral high ground to be had here regardless.

You're making a poor case that someone is a bad person because they are a bigot by also being bigoted to her and other trans people.

[Isala]

You're making a poor case that someone is a bad person because they are a bigot by also being bigoted to her and other trans people.

You can go through my entire post history if you'd like. I've said absolutely nothing bigoted about her at all. Even used the proper gender for her and everything like you want. I simply do not care that others are returning the same level of behavior that Sena is. Because everyone wants to use that to deflect the actual points. Go on. You can check. Find a single instance of me being a bigot towards Sena. And no, just hating them for their behaviors, performance and nepotism doesn't count. That's not bigotry.

[Burmecia]

You're making a poor case that someone is a bad person because they are a bigot by also being bigoted to her and other trans people.

people were disappointed by her poor performance as voice of expansions' main character. we can try to find "actual culprit" by guessing around who was the director or casting director or whatever. but: as consumers/players, we really experience artists performance first, lik in context of videogame cutscene, her voice talent work. no one had reason to look closer to miss Bryer if there was nothing wrong with her performance.

then people found her rude, or tactless, or double standard-y, or unprofessional takes on whatever on social media. we can postulate how whatever one posts to their private social media account shouldn't matter. but that's not how it works. we know that, even sena bryer knows that. if she, somehow, doesn't she shouldn't be on social media.

half-ok adjusted adults don't go around running and crying about """death threats""" on the internet. if someone's gut is truly and honestly telling them they are in real effin danger, they don't act like miss bryer is acting. and if authorities think someone is danger in situation where miss bryer is now, their instructions aren't likely: oh yeah keep on spamming your social media!
her behavior is actively making her look pretty bad in my eyes, but since that is off-topic i can't be assed to comment further. i am not interested in anyone's takes on intersexed boxers' situations, or whatever she has recently used as her hobbyhorse to veer back to transwomen. beyond awkward transition, if anything i say.

i see her, by her behavior, narrowly above imageboard troll. old internet used to say something about feeding those.
she has already joined the cohort of other social media/content creator heroes who kept so much noise about their death threats years ago - and who are still very very much alive, holding "wedding themed 40 yo birthday parties alone :-)))"

[Wildheaven182]

You're making a poor case that someone is a bad person because they are a bigot by also being bigoted to her and other trans people.

We don't owe anything to hypocrites. No one cares if a horrible person tries to force them into speaking about them a certain way when they don't deserve it, and they don't deserve it if they don't extend the same courtesy to others.
Everyone is tired of this dishing it but can't take it bs.
Besides, you can't force people against their will to speak a certain way. Respect is earned, not obligated. Compelled speech is fascistic.

I call Sena She to be polite and I'm used to it from talking to my own trans friend, even though Sena doesn't deserve it and makes trans people like my friend look bad by being a terrible person.

[FlowerMilk]

We don't owe anything to hypocrites. No one cares if a horrible person tries to force them into speaking about them a certain way when they don't deserve it, and they don't deserve it if they don't extend the same courtesy to others.
Everyone is tired of this dishing it but can't take it bs.
Besides, you can't force people against their will to speak a certain way. Respect is earned, not obligated. Compelled speech is fascistic.

I call Sena She to be polite and I'm used to it from talking to my own trans friend, even though Sena doesn't deserve it and makes trans people like my friend look bad by being a terrible person.

Trans people are individuals and they don't make the entirety of all trans people "look bad" by being bad people as individuals. Do you think all men are bad because one man murdered someone?

[Lorika]

You can dislike her as a person without being transphobic.

It's what a lot of people did on this thread.... So i wonder why white knight just point the very few real transphobic post present in this thread, and say that hey are the majority.

This attitude will, in the end, derserve the LGBT community. If you don't start to realize this soon, it will turn ugly.... Because, when the neutral silent majority will be fed up with all of this, and will start to voice it, you'll have a real problem on you hands.
And, the silent majority is starting to get fed up...