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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    You left off the next part of what I said.



    And here is some proof of a thread the mods literally had to close because the transphobia and harassment towards Sena got too bad:
    https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...-English-Voice

    A thread that you posted in and saw the transphobia happening for yourself. Why are you lying and pretending like it never happened?
    Was there anyone saying “ I hate trans people” or “ trans people shouldn’t exist”?

    I don’t see any
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aword3213 View Post
    Was there anyone saying “ I hate trans people” or “ trans people shouldn’t exist”?

    I don’t see any
    i have hunch that it's wasn't so black and white, and those who did get offended were offended by people meaning:
    "i don't like that fact that they picked mtf for this female character role, actor's vocal range is noticeably limited while the writing portrays character who would benefit her actor to be able to portray wider arrange of emotions and tone. actor plays the role oddly monotonically. i can't understand what the casting director was thinking!"

    and then in the minds and eyes of some people all that looks like: "something something transphobia"

    which ironically would made it depressingly black and white
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    Last edited by Burmecia; 08-09-2024 at 02:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Burmecia View Post
    i have hunch that it's wasn't so black and white, and those who did get offended were offended by people meaning:
    "i don't like that fact that they picked mtf for this female character role, actor's vocal range is noticeably limited while the writing portrays character who would benefit her actor to be able to portray wider arrange of emotions and tone. actor plays the role oddly monotonically. i can't understand what the casting director was thinking!"

    and then in the minds and eyes of some people all that looks like: "something something transphobia"

    which ironically would made it depressingly black and white
    You know people can just open up the link and see people calling her a man with their own eyes? Why even bother pretending like people can't see it for themselves?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    You know people can just open up the link and see people calling her a man with their own eyes? Why even bother pretending like people can't see it for themselves?
    Yes, yes. People calling the VA "Woke Lamat", or "Wuk LaMan" or whatever, still doesn't change the fact that Sena is a terrible person too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Yes, yes. People calling the VA "Woke Lamat", or "Wuk LaMan" or whatever, still doesn't change the fact that Sena is a terrible person too.
    You can dislike her as a person without being transphobic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    You can dislike her as a person without being transphobic.
    Cool, can Sena stop being cisphobic and misogynistic? Cause until then, I see no point in caring that they're getting exactly what they dish out. All I see here is hate getting hate. There is no moral high ground to be had here regardless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Cool, can Sena stop being cisphobic and misogynistic? Cause until then, I see no point in caring that they're getting exactly what they dish out. All I see here is hate getting hate. There is no moral high ground to be had here regardless.
    You're making a poor case that someone is a bad person because they are a bigot by also being bigoted to her and other trans people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlowerMilk View Post
    You can dislike her as a person without being transphobic.
    It's what a lot of people did on this thread.... So i wonder why white knight just point the very few real transphobic post present in this thread, and say that hey are the majority.

    This attitude will, in the end, derserve the LGBT community. If you don't start to realize this soon, it will turn ugly.... Because, when the neutral silent majority will be fed up with all of this, and will start to voice it, you'll have a real problem on you hands.
    And, the silent majority is starting to get fed up...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorika View Post
    It's what a lot of people did on this thread.... So i wonder why white knight just point the very few real transphobic post present in this thread, and say that hey are the majority.

    This attitude will, in the end, derserve the LGBT community. If you don't start to realize this soon, it will turn ugly.... Because, when the neutral silent majority will be fed up with all of this, and will start to voice it, you'll have a real problem on you hands.
    And, the silent majority is starting to get fed up...
    Voice it, tell me how exactly it will turn "ugly". Don't be silent any longer, air it out. What do you plan to do about it? Tell us.
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