#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Ramiee]

Curious how many of you have tried healing M3S and M4S and if your opinion about the state of the healers has changed?

I prefer to have fun after the first couple of weeks of doing savage so I don't play healer but what I've seen so far the cycle is unchanged.
Healers have a job during prog and low gear, people get better gear, bosses hit less as hard DPS/tank get into a rhythm of mitigating better, healers heal less, healers have to spam glare.
Nothings really changed.

[Ayalu]

FFXIV copied a lot from Wow (they admitted so)- Why not copy the healing? Or copy from EQ or EQ 2?

Plenty of other games have more fun healing.... no excuse for the lack of diversity in healing in this game.

To be fair they were inspired and played it itensivly for ARR.
After that i somehow doubt they went back to that.

[MrSigy]

Curious how many of you have tried healing M3S and M4S and if your opinion about the state of the healers has changed?

what are you talking about neither m3s or m4s is healing intensive ...

I prefer to have fun after the first couple of weeks of doing savage so I don't play healer but what I've seen so far the cycle is unchanged.
Healers have a job during prog and low gear, people get better gear, bosses hit less as hard DPS/tank get into a rhythm of mitigating better, healers heal less, healers have to spam glare.
Nothings really changed.

You are correct, after w1 I don't wanna play healer anymore.


Also ast being so strong really does not make me want to play healer anymore.
Hey ast you died 3 times but you pressed divination during the correct gcd on burst window here have more damage then me.
Oh I have the 735 weapon and you still have 710, well that doesn't really matter does it.

[Somnolence]

what are you talking about neither m3s or m4s is healing intensive ...

I know, I am trolling a bit here, since nothing really changed that would impact the healer status quo

I did notice some healers complaining, because they actually have to GCD heal there and there (well, mostly shield), especially if co-healer is weaker.

[Isala]

I know, I am trolling a bit here, since nothing really changed that would impact the healer status quo

I did notice some healers complaining, because they actually have to GCD heal there and there (well, mostly shield), especially if co-healer is weaker.

Which goes back to the same discussion we all had a few hundred pages ago, about how having a role that only "feels better" when everyone else isn't performing well is still crappy design.

[Tigore]

3rd time this week I have had a Paladin as my tank and each time they use Requiescat to heal themselves instead of doing damage. Yes I am healing them but they feel the need to keep themself above 90% hp apparently.

@ Xenoviastar

As I said, the blade spell combos, Holy Spirit and Holy Circle also come packaged with a 400 potency cure when they are cast. We can technically still use Holy Spirit and Holy Circle as an instant filler later since the melee combos procs one use afterwards. We are healing ourselves past 90% HP even if we are using Requiescat properly. Hence the confusion here. But since it is about Clemency spam for clarification, sorry about the assumption if you really have no problem with the proper usage. It doesn't even come across my mind to ever use Requiescat on Clemency because we are indirectly Cure spamming ourselves doing it right anyhow.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

The only time I'd use Requiescat for Clememecy is around StB levels so I can pull off the enmity from whoever triggers next trash pulls. Works like a charm lmao.

[Ramiee]

To be fair they were inspired and played it itensivly for ARR.
After that i somehow doubt they went back to that.

Well for healers they werent as inspired, Cataclysm healers werent bad persay but healer damage option in WoW cata was not as interesting and engaging as ARR. WoW healing however got better and better each expansion from Cata onwards in terms of adding damage options and healing, its not exactly perfect because WoW class balance is all over the place so some healers are completely shafted.

[ForsakenRoe]

(Of course, what's missing in the bottom part of the graphic is precisely the plethora of healing spells that are frequently used by typical players doing group content in typical groups. If the graphic didn't show only DPS spells, but showed all casts by a typical healer in typical group content, well...it would destroy the image here that intentionally misleads the viewer by omitting critical info.)

Maybe if Brute Bomber opened up with 15 slams instead of just 4, so that a prepull AdloDeploy wasn't enough to cover it all, maybe then you'd have a point. Unfortunately, even in Savage, he only uses 4, AdloDeploy is enough to cover it, and so the Opener is completely uninterrupted (because the next thing he does is a 4hit TB that the tanks can easily deal with thanks to their 40%s, their 25s CDs, etc)

The 'omission' here is not info, it's the damage itself, omitted from the fight by SE because if it WERE in the fight, many players wouldn't be able to keep up

[Maltothoris]

Maybe if Brute Bomber opened up with 15 slams instead of just 4, so that a prepull AdloDeploy wasn't enough to cover it all, maybe then you'd have a point. Unfortunately, even in Savage, he only uses 4, AdloDeploy is enough to cover it, and so the Opener is completely uninterrupted (because the next thing he does is a 4hit TB that the tanks can easily deal with thanks to their 40%s, their 25s CDs, etc)

The 'omission' here is not info, it's the damage itself, omitted from the fight by SE because if it WERE in the fight, many players wouldn't be able to keep up

And don't forget it isn't just the old deploy but the other healer doing stuff as well like a earthly and prepull horoscope or asylum and a lily. The only things in this whole tier that aftually reaally hirt is fusefield, the bomberian special and sword quiver in terms of healing checks.