With Apologies to Sena Bryer

[HighlanderClone]

Bringing attention to the toxicity in this forum is warranted. It's not the entirety or a majority of the community that's hateful, but it's enough to be noticed on multiple platforms, including this one. In this very thread there are users who have made personal and discriminatory attacks against Sena Bryer, and I'm sure the other usual suspects will soon turn up to talk about how she is "misgendering [herself]" like that makes hatred valid.

I get your frustration in seeing posts about this, but the hate is very much present, and I'm okay with bringing up the problem until the moderators do something about the troublemakers.

Except now every legitimate criticism is buried and instead of the discussing the game we're discussing this stupid drama for nearly two thirds of the year at this point.

[HighlanderClone]

Why is this such a big deal. Before all of these threads and posts I had no idea who Sena Bryer even was much less what her gender identity was. The VA for Wuk was just a bad VA to me and nothing more.

100% this lmao.

You can clearly tell who needs to log off Twitter in these threads.

[LisseyCrowe]

I'm sure you'll ignore and twist this to fit your narrative as you've been doing all thread but,
Her saying she's received death threats is making it public. And her whole response was replying to someone with actual criticism about her character. Nothing to do with anything she's spouting about.

To play Devil's Advocate ... Criticism can be harassment, especially if the one on the receiving end didn't ask for it and is receiving a lot of it. I 100% that Sena feels like this is harassment.

Unfortunately, Voice Acting is an art form. Every time someone voices anything, people will form opinions, and they will share these opinions, especially if they paid for it. This issue isn't unique to Sena, a lot of people in Media have these knee-jerk reactions nowadays, but coming out as a victim never works and I don't know why so many go that route. If she had an honest heart-to-heart, discussing maybe the development and her struggles with the role, people would probably be kinder to her. It wouldn't fix everything, but at least you wouldn't have people claim she's lying or earned it.

[Nebelheim]

I think giving death threats are horrible and so is doxxing but Sena constantly playing victim and going on toxic rants about how cisgendered white woman should step down and be blacklisted from voice acting or playing certain roles and complaining how people find cisgendered woman cute or claiming she is being harassed and getting death threats with no proof while replying to a valid criticism of her performance things like that are just going to keep giving hateful people more ammunition to harass. I think she needs to take a break from social media and not keep posting the things that she has been posting because not only will she be putting herself at risk of not being hired in future projects but also at risk of being fired and people getting more nasty towards her.

[Mapleine]

There is way too much drama associated with this person... I don't come to the forums to read about terminally online social media drama.

[Xellith]

There is way too much drama associated with this person... I don't come to the forums to read about terminally online social media drama.

The drama seems to be happening on twitter and then people bring it here. World would be a better place if Twitter was nuked from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

[DiaDeem]

[LuciferMournstar]

I didn't even know who Wuk Lemats english VA was MtF trans until I saw I saw a video on Youtube about it. This was just before Dawntrail released and after Wuk Lemat was introduced in 6.55. Then I found another video a bit later still before DT came out, and posted a comment about Wuk Lemat's English VA. You can find that here, it's the highlighted reply : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kghL...U2yA2u_4W8JZf0

Then Dawntrail came out and after going through the story all I had to say was : "I think the English VA did fine. Not the best performance, but not bad overall. I say a 7/10. The only real issue I had with her performance was 2 things : The accent seemed too hard forced, but i'm not an expert on what you would call an authentic accent for that area. The other was her emotion. When she screamed and yelled, it sounded very... muted. This is probably because the voice actress is MtF trans. She probably had issues hitting that higher volume, while keeping a more feminine pitch and tone. Other than that, I didn't have a problem." (Sorry, I don't have a link to where I first posted that, the thread that was posted on got deleted.)

I still got called a bigot a couple times and hated on for even MENTIONING Sena was MtF trans. Even though what I said was more along the lines of saying "I understand why". Not blaming her, not shaming her, not hating on her for it. If anything, I gave a good reason as to why her performance fell a little flat. I was understanding and not in a "pity" way, just understanding that it was really hard for her or downright impossible. I didn't expect perfection, and I still maintain Sena did alright, minus a few points. It just goes to show, sometimes you can't even be fair sometimes. Show ANY criticism when it comes to some overzealous activist, LEGBTQ++, ect. You will always have those that are rabid, and either you're 100% for, or 100% against. There is no middle ground with a minority of very angry and vocal activist, LGBTQ++, ect. people.

[ForteNightshade]

No she didn't. She said she'd received death threats, but that doesn't entitle you to see footage of it. Again, reporting it to the police is more important than showing it to you. Who are you to her?

I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.

[CerusSerenade]

I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.

You've changed the context.

You switched the idea from "I've been attacked" to "you attacked me" and are trying to conflate the two when they are actually drastically different things to say.

The former is a way of indicating distress and a desire for support. The latter is an accusation that someone else has wronged you.

You're arguing dishonestly and doing a poor job at it.