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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    No she didn't. She said she'd received death threats, but that doesn't entitle you to see footage of it. Again, reporting it to the police is more important than showing it to you. Who are you to her?
    I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

    Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

    Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.
    You've changed the context.

    You switched the idea from "I've been attacked" to "you attacked me" and are trying to conflate the two when they are actually drastically different things to say.

    The former is a way of indicating distress and a desire for support. The latter is an accusation that someone else has wronged you.

    You're arguing dishonestly and doing a poor job at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

    Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.
    Bingo. They act like a terrible person, get a job they admit they suck at doing, proceed to suck at said job, and now suddenly they're getting hate, threats etc. from all the "ists, phobes and bigots" for ONLY her performance. Yeah. Sure they are. Said it before, but they definitely seem like the type to make things up for a narrative, especially with their insistence that the "industry" hates them. Gotta have a boogeyman, after all, otherwise you can't blame anyone but yourself for the fact that nobody wants to hire you.
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    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Bingo. They act like a terrible person, get a job they admit they suck at doing, proceed to suck at said job, and now suddenly they're getting hate, threats etc. from all the "ists, phobes and bigots" for ONLY her performance. Yeah. Sure they are. Said it before, but they definitely seem like the type to make things up for a narrative, especially with their insistence that the "industry" hates them. Gotta have a boogeyman, after all, otherwise you can't blame anyone but yourself for the fact that nobody wants to hire you.
    Be you:

    Walk into a topic about supporting Sena Bryer.

    "sHe'S mAkInG uP aLl tHe dEaTh tHrEaTs aNd sHe dOeSn'T dEsErVe tO aSk oR gEt sUpPoRt!!1!"

    Get a hobby weirdo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Be you:

    Walk into a topic about supporting Sena Bryer.

    "sHe'S mAkInG uP aLl tHe dEaTh tHrEaTs aNd sHe dOeSn'T dEsErVe tO aSk oR gEt sUpPoRt!!1!"

    Get a hobby weirdo.
    What's that all you terminally online types say? Staying silent is supporting evil, and if you don't speak up, you're condoning bad behavior? Something more catchy than that, I'm sure, but I don't support evil, sorry. And I'm speaking up against it.
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    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    What's that all you terminally online types say? Staying silent is supporting evil, and if you don't speak up, you're condoning bad behavior? Something more catchy than that, I'm sure, but I don't support evil, sorry. And I'm speaking up against it.
    Pfft- WHAT?!

    "Evil?!" What exactly has Sena Bryer done that's "evil" exactly?

    Go on, how is putting on a "bad performance" for a videogame "evil" exactly? Go on, I can't wait to hear your explanation.

    I knew you were a weirdo but this is taking it to another level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CerusSerenade View Post
    Pfft- WHAT?!

    "Evil?!" What exactly has Sena Bryer done that's "evil" exactly?

    Go on, how is putting on a "bad performance" for a videogame "evil" exactly? Go on, I can't wait to hear your explanation.

    I knew you were a weirdo but this is taking it to another level.
    They're a hateful, bile spewing bigot? I mean, there's no way you've missed any of the posts about the crap they say on a regular basis. Not as terminally online as you are, defending her by calling everyone "weirdo". There's literally no way you missed that.
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    Player CerusSerenade's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    They're a hateful, bile spewing bigot? I mean, there's no way you've missed any of the posts about the crap they say on a regular basis. Not as terminally online as you are, defending her by calling everyone "weirdo". There's literally no way you missed that.
    Citation needed, feel free to actually back up what you're saying with a source like I've been asking.
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