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    Quote Originally Posted by SophiaDL View Post
    She posted it on twitter buddy. She made it public, either show evidence or keep it to yourself.
    No she didn't. She said she'd received death threats, but that doesn't entitle you to see footage of it. Again, reporting it to the police is more important than showing it to you. Who are you to her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    No she didn't. She said she'd received death threats, but that doesn't entitle you to see footage of it. Again, reporting it to the police is more important than showing it to you. Who are you to her?
    The point went right over your head

    bad faith galore lmao, anyways moving on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    No she didn't. She said she'd received death threats, but that doesn't entitle you to see footage of it. Again, reporting it to the police is more important than showing it to you. Who are you to her?
    But...she stomped her feet and said that her industry should be rallying behind her. Over a death threat no one has seen or heard about before then.

    Also comparing herself to an Olympian who has been under intense global scrutiny is a bit laughable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrMenodora View Post
    But...she stomped her feet and said that her industry should be rallying behind her. Over a death threat no one has seen or heard about before then.

    Also comparing herself to an Olympian who has been under intense global scrutiny is a bit laughable.
    And these points matter why? It's not the death threats alone that should give someone cause to stand by her. I saw that post, there's enough public hate that commenters were calling her slurs right off the bat. Are you not satisfied?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    And these points matter why? It's not the death threats alone that should give someone cause to stand by her. I saw that post, there's enough public hate that commenters were calling her slurs right off the bat. Are you not satisfied?


    No. I find her victimhood envy and her "why isn't everyone surrounding MEEE!" distasteful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    No she didn't. She said she'd received death threats, but that doesn't entitle you to see footage of it. Again, reporting it to the police is more important than showing it to you. Who are you to her?
    I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

    Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

    Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.
    You've changed the context.

    You switched the idea from "I've been attacked" to "you attacked me" and are trying to conflate the two when they are actually drastically different things to say.

    The former is a way of indicating distress and a desire for support. The latter is an accusation that someone else has wronged you.

    You're arguing dishonestly and doing a poor job at it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    I could accuse you of sending me death threats and make a huge stink about it on twitter. By your logic, everyone in this thread should just believe me right? After all, you can't ask the "victim" to provide evidence of their accusations. Sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? That's because it is. If she didn't care about the publicity, then there's no reason to even go on twitter and mention it.

    Now here's the real rub. Wanna know who else received death threats? Practically every big named content creator for this game. Xeno literally has a lawsuit he's been talking about. Somehow, he was still able to share proof of his accusations despite having on ongoing legal battle. Put bluntly, Sena could show a handful of tweets with named redacted and that solves everything. Is she obligated to do so? Of course not. But neither she nor anyone else should expect to be believed without showing some measure of proof. Even if that seems to be the trend nowadays.
    Bingo. They act like a terrible person, get a job they admit they suck at doing, proceed to suck at said job, and now suddenly they're getting hate, threats etc. from all the "ists, phobes and bigots" for ONLY her performance. Yeah. Sure they are. Said it before, but they definitely seem like the type to make things up for a narrative, especially with their insistence that the "industry" hates them. Gotta have a boogeyman, after all, otherwise you can't blame anyone but yourself for the fact that nobody wants to hire you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    I commented that Sena cannot show evidence because it may disrupt the police investigation, and people are using my comment to say she should show evidence? If somebody sent you a death threat, would you let the police wait because internet strangers need to see it first? No, duh.
    Calm the hell down and let her deal with the problem without you breathing down her neck because you wanna see the juicy death threats.
    Why are you so fixated on trying to get people to blindly believe her? If they believe her, that's fine. If they doubt her/don't believe her, that's fine. No one's breathing down her neck here, stop exaggerating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rueby View Post
    Why are you so fixated on trying to get people to blindly believe her? If they believe her, that's fine. If they doubt her/don't believe her, that's fine. No one's breathing down her neck here, stop exaggerating.
    See my other comment for an easy example of someone breathing down her neck to publicly share the death threats.
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