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    Quote Originally Posted by NegativeS View Post
    I think the issue is the fact that the 'story-first MMO' somehow managed to bungle the story--you don't see this kind of stink being stunk in WoW, for example. And they not only bungled the story, but stapled our character to a new face that many have deemed insufferable for a variety of reasons.

    I agree that people should play games that they enjoy, but 'if you don't like it find something else' has always been a toxic and unhelpful rebuttal to criticism.
    I am trying to verify but I heard a rumor that most the DT MSQ writing was by the team that did the Beast tribes quests prior - if so then the feeling of everything being super compartmentalized and inconsequential makes a lot more sense. I don't "hate" Wuk Lamat but I am exhausted by her being far too focused in the MSQ while at the same time the moment any potential character development might happen; we simply rapidly change to some other arc. We never really explore her relationships with anyone other then Koana despite constrantly engaging the other competitors; and the fact that Bakool is the outsider they wrote him as unreachable for any introspection until the end...and then we immediately shift away from him.

    SPOILER

    Personally? I would have changed the 2nd beat of DT. I would have had Zoraal and Bakool and Wuk go to investigate Heritage found. During that time we would learn about Zakools issues and see Bakool become more understanding and less a dick; culimating with Zoraal betraying us at Everkeep and Bakool saving our lives and being badly injured/killed as his redemption arc. Instead Zakool who seems controlled and smart throws a childish tantrum that gets him disqualified and then steals the mcguffin and Bakool suddenly learns that not being a dick is a good idea. All because of the far too heavy handed focus on Wuk Lamat which puts her issues with her writing on open display until she quite literally breaks the 4th wall in the last trial...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayan_Calvesse View Post
    I am trying to verify but I heard a rumor that most the DT MSQ writing was by the team that did the Beast tribes quests prior - if so then the feeling of everything being super compartmentalized and inconsequential makes a lot more sense. I don't "hate" Wuk Lamat but I am exhausted by her being far too focused in the MSQ while at the same time the moment any potential character development might happen; we simply rapidly change to some other arc. We never really explore her relationships with anyone other then Koana despite constrantly engaging the other competitors; and the fact that Bakool is the outsider they wrote him as unreachable for any introspection until the end...and then we immediately shift away from him.

    SPOILER

    Personally? I would have changed the 2nd beat of DT. I would have had Zoraal and Bakool and Wuk go to investigate Heritage found. During that time we would learn about Zakools issues and see Bakool become more understanding and less a dick; culimating with Zoraal betraying us at Everkeep and Bakool saving our lives and being badly injured/killed as his redemption arc. Instead Zakool who seems controlled and smart throws a childish tantrum that gets him disqualified and then steals the mcguffin and Bakool suddenly learns that not being a dick is a good idea. All because of the far too heavy handed focus on Wuk Lamat which puts her issues with her writing on open display until she quite literally breaks the 4th wall in the last trial...
    It is true, that has been confirmed. So there are 3 writers for DT.

    Daichi Hiroi who was a Game Content Designer for Heavensward and a Quest Designer for Shadowbringers previously, no other credits to his name.
    Megumi Onozuka who's only other credit is Quest Designer for Shadowbringers.
    And Finally... Tomohiro Kawasaki who also was a Quest Designer for Shadowbringers, but who's other credits include 3 other "Games", which are a series of Adult Visual Novels where he is credited with writing the script.
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    This very forum has an endless stream of awful people who use every relevant thread to insult Sena Bryer, attack her identity, and deliberately refer to her incorrectly no matter how many times you point out it's wrong. To all of you who join in on attacking her, where is your limit? Why have you not taken a moment to dismiss the ones who are posting bigoted harassment against her? I've never seen any of you make even a single sentence distancing yourself from the discriminatory comments before you continue the chains in those same threads.

    Your feedback cannot be taken in good faith if you're willingly standing with toxic figures. You know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    This very forum has an endless stream of awful people who use every relevant thread to insult Sena Bryer, attack her identity, and deliberately refer to her incorrectly no matter how many times you point out it's wrong. To all of you who join in on attacking her, where is your limit? Why have you not taken a moment to dismiss the ones who are posting bigoted harassment against her? I've never seen any of you make even a single sentence distancing yourself from the discriminatory comments before you continue the chains in those same threads.

    Your feedback cannot be taken in good faith if you're willingly standing with toxic figures. You know that.
    I keep telling myself to not reply to posts like yours cause it's just virtue signalling nonsense.

    However, to entertain myself and the masses who will read this...

    1) Respect is earned.

    2) Bullying begets bullying.

    3) This is the internet. Everyone receives threats or insults.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    I keep telling myself to not reply to posts like yours cause it's just virtue signalling nonsense.
    Then don't reply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Picothea View Post
    Then don't reply.
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    However, to entertain myself and the masses who will read this...
    Oh look at that...
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    When a thread like this appears I have a lot of sympathy for Sena, given the general vibe of some FFXIV haters, in no time some random weirdo will start asking if they can have a valid criticism about a VA and then slip in their weird incel politics in the post, it's kind of obnoxious.

    I hope this stops for her at some point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    ...let us be honest, I am pretty sure the voice actor did not get a wave of threats as they claimed.
    Quote Originally Posted by MartinFreeman View Post
    3) This is the internet. Everyone receives threats or insults.
    No agenda whatsoever, sure.

    Bet you would be dying on the cross if it was a straight white man getting the same abuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRealQuah View Post
    No agenda whatsoever, sure.

    Bet you would be dying on the cross if it was a straight white man getting the same abuse.
    Bet you would be accusing it of being fake if it was a straight white man getting the same abuse, bigot hypocrite.
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    Last edited by Wildheaven182; 08-09-2024 at 01:12 PM.

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