Tanks holding fights hostage in Roulettes

[Icefall]

Had this happen in Leveling Duty Finder the other day. We got one of the Endwalker story dungeons and a DPS new to it. Myself (DPS) and my friend (Healer) hadn't run this dungeon in a while, so the last boss got us on a mechanic. It was around 50% at the time. The still standing WAR tank decided to then solo the boss for 10-15+ minutes, taking it down to 1% where they then died, completely wasting all of our time. At least the new player got a chance to participate in the full fight and learn it on the second go. This is absolutely ridiculous and disrespectful of everyone's time. If a tank wants to go solo a dungeon, there are ways to do that without wasting the time of 3 people who registered for a normal leveling run.

[TojiSuzuhara]

Its not faster to die and restart. Your party was weak and died, there is no promise of a sudden gain of competence next pull.
By comparison, you know what your capable of as a tank, thus its lower risk to just solo it and get the guaranteed move on rather than be a tutorial bot for your party

Thats how I feel about it anyway.

problem in this particular instance is they pulled before we could talk about WHY we died. i'm patient, and i want people to learn. and i also want people to have that authentic "first fight" experience and the tanks wasting 30 minutes of our time denied these players the chance to do that and i truly think we wouldve killed it again in another pull or two if they were at least given the chance.

[Reimmi]

I'm not required to die because the rest of you can't do mechanics correctly. I'll keep tanking if I'm the only one left.

As a tank main there is nothing more boring than soloing 50% of a bosses hp.
I honestly do not understand how you find that engaging at all.
Go solo old savage fights or do, you know, actual savage if you want to feel like a tank

[Magikazam]

Its not faster to die and restart.

Yes it is, ngl I play since ARR and during all my playtime I had 3 times only where it was worth for the tank to not reset. It a normal difficulty fight and people wont wipe for the next hours like if they were progging savage.

Only reason this problem exist is cause Tank are completly overtuned for the content, it not like you are good or that it require skill to survive when the game don't punish you for running around with 7 stacks.

[Oizen]

problem in this particular instance is they pulled before we could talk about WHY we died. i'm patient, and i want people to learn. and i also want people to have that authentic "first fight" experience and the tanks wasting 30 minutes of our time denied these players the chance to do that and i truly think we wouldve killed it again in another pull or two if they were at least given the chance.

Weren't you on the ground, talk about it then.

Yes it is, ngl I play since ARR and during all my playtime I had 3 times only where it was worth for the tank to not reset. It a normal difficulty fight and people wont wipe for the next hours like if they were progging savage.
Only reason this problem exist is cause Tank are completly overtuned for the content, it not like you are good or that it require skill to survive when the game don't punish you for running around with 7 stacks.

Healers are also overkitted for normals. I agree its a balance problem but they seem to like this direction for the game.

[Larirawiel]

i genuinely almost never post here but its been a more common occurrence i've noticed this expansion specifically where tanks, knowing they can just out sustain a boss, will refuse to reset a fight and instead force players to sit there and wait for them to whittle a boss down.

Do not die and you will never have this problem.



Cheers

[TojiSuzuhara]

Weren't you on the ground, talk about it then.


Healers are also overkitted for normals. I agree its a balance problem but they seem to like this direction for the game.

we did! we also asked them to reset. hope this helps

[Tunda]

If I can fight boss solo with BLM like WAR I will do it and I don't care

[TojiSuzuhara]

Do not die and you will never have this problem.



Cheers

So we died because people weren't stacking with the people with the stack markers. Cheers

[gllt]

Do not die and you will never have this problem.



Cheers

Thinking this is acceptable advice is a skill issue