Tanks holding fights hostage in Roulettes

[Wolf_Heartnet]

My opinion is simply... its a roulette. You don't get to pick and choose the strategy or your party members. People que in for different reasons and may not have patience to wait for someone to learn a fight. If you don't like it, you can attempt to kick them and if the kick fails then deal with it and que with pre-mades in future. You may not like them locking u out of the fight and finishing it solo but it seems like they dont want their time being wasted.

Not to sh1t on good or bad players. Im just saying that PUG's aren't an ideal way of completing content with specific goals. Pre-mades are better for that cause you gotta deal with what u get in duty finder.

[Supersnow845]

My opinion is simply... its a roulette. You don't get to pick and choose the strategy or your party members. People que in for different reasons and may not have patience to wait for someone to learn a fight. If you don't like it, you can attempt to kick them and if the kick fails then deal with it and que with pre-mades in future. You may not like them locking u out of the fight and finishing it solo but it seems like they dont want their time being wasted.

Not to sh1t on good or bad players. Im just saying that PUG's aren't an ideal way of completing content with specific goals. Pre-mades are better for that cause you gotta deal with what u get in duty finder.

This concept only works if we had any power to deny someone the right to solo the boss if the party doesn’t want it

If there was a vote force wipe the other party members could instigate on the offending tank if they want to wipe then they should have that choice

The whole problem with this tank soloing business is you are literally held hostage, you can’t leave, you can’t kick them, you can’t do anything besides wait for them or fully quit the game

[Wolf_Heartnet]

This concept only works if we had any power to deny someone the right to solo the boss if the party doesn’t want it

If there was a vote force wipe the other party members could instigate on the offending tank if they want to wipe then they should have that choice

The whole problem with this tank soloing business is you are literally held hostage, you can’t leave, you can’t kick them, you can’t do anything besides wait for them or fully quit the game

I get you. But my answer is just do pre-mades if you don't want to run into that or play the tank yourself. If you don't want to, thats fine but my opinion remains the same. Its a pug so u just gotta deal with it.

[Plumerian_Ariadust]

The whole problem with this tank soloing business is you are literally held hostage, you can’t leave, you can’t kick them, you can’t do anything besides wait for them or fully quit the game

You could also
1) Pull out your phone, post [SE pls. These tanks are holding us hostages, send help] on twitter, and watch the shitstorm
OR
2) Adopt a dont care attitude and browse cat memes while someone is having their hero moment.

[localareanetwork]

My opinion is simply... its a roulette. You don't get to pick and choose the strategy or your party members. People que in for different reasons and may not have patience to wait for someone to learn a fight. If you don't like it, you can attempt to kick them and if the kick fails then deal with it and que with pre-mades in future. You may not like them locking u out of the fight and finishing it solo but it seems like they dont want their time being wasted.

Not to sh1t on good or bad players. Im just saying that PUG's aren't an ideal way of completing content with specific goals. Pre-mades are better for that cause you gotta deal with what u get in duty finder.

It wastes more time soloing a boss as a tank than resetting

[SwadTheFrog]

i genuinely almost never post here but its been a more common occurrence i've noticed this expansion specifically where tanks, knowing they can just out sustain a boss, will refuse to reset a fight and instead force players to sit there and wait for them to whittle a boss down. I decided to take my WHM into trial roulette for my daily and got Valigarmanda normal. There seemed to a be a couple of newer players and they were having issue with the add phase/stack marker mechanic and we ended up dying due to not having enough bodies to survive the stacks (except the tanks) so i was trying to explain to them the easiest way to handle it. Instead, the tanks only on the 2nd or 3rd pull decided to just keep going and make us sit and watch and the encounter ended up taking almost 30 minutes. I thought the healer strike thing was silly at first tbh, but i've noticed this happening more and more often and i'm at the point now i will just not be taking healers in duties anymore, ya'll can suffer.

To be quite blunt, I think this more displays how completely pointless healers are in content that isn't high end at this point. If two tanks can do a whole boss fight without any healers whatsoever, then big oof.

[Shinku_Tachi]

To be quite blunt, I think this more displays how completely pointless healers are in content that isn't high end at this point. If two tanks can do a whole boss fight without any healers whatsoever, then big oof.

Healers have been the focus of this situation, and I get it; but, this does more than display healers being completely useless. This exhibit displays DPS being completely useless too.

Who needs deeps and heals, when a tank with 30 minutes to kill, won't die and reset the boss; but, instead, will solo it while everyone's laying around dead, wasting everyone's time.

Out of any complaints that can be levied against Dawntrail. This should be chief among them and addressed asap.

If the community team reads any Dawntrail critique thread, I hope it's this one.

[Oizen]

Have you tried not dying?

[gllt]

Have you tried not dying?

No one can because the tank is soloing the boss. Have you tried dying?

[TojiSuzuhara]

Have you tried not dying?

so again, to be clear, there were a few new players in this fight and they panicked during the stack part of the adds phase...no amount of throughput healing was enough to keep my body alive lol. i *personally* think at this point in the game ppl should also understand what that marker does but besides the point did not really get to finish explaining to them that phase as the tanks immediately pulled again, hence us failing that part again and waiting over 20 minutes for the fight to be over