Problem with toxic casual players on this forum

[Petroglyph]

when I'm in a crazy person contest but my opponent is Aurelius2625 on the ffxiv forums

"life sucks so video games should provide no relief, because life won't" is wild. dispassionate at best and malignant at worst. it's okay if someone thinks stuff is too hard in general and weighs in. maybe the devs missed the mark by a small margin and the feedback helps bring it inline with their vision.

[koko-on-da-forumz]

How are there 13 pages of people falling for the world's most obvious bait post?

Are they stupid?

[NekoNova]

How are there 13 pages of people falling for the world's most obvious bait post?

Are they stupid?

just seeking entertainment amongst the myriad of drama posts.
It's like the endtimes have come to the forum.

[Leifei]

I'm generally enjoying the story and the battle content. Wuk Lamat is a good character in my opinion. I saw myself as the mentor, helping her become stronger mentally and in battle. I do agree that the English voice actor needs a lot of work though. Her voice felt flat in many scenarios where there should have been more emotion.

[caffe_macchiato]

That's a weakling's mentality. If you were literally any other species, you'd be left to die in the wild. Do you think SO LITTLE of yourself and your own intelligence, capabilities, and limits that you would fold so easily? Look man...I've never healed seriously before...but I decided that I wasn't going to let myself be limited. I've healed and although I don't run the funny numbers machine, others did in my pug PFs, and was pleasantly surprised that I could heal on Sage and do it well enough to be complimented on it. I've mained Tank since Creator in Heavensward. I'm not letting anything tell me what I am capable of doing, except for myself.

Either get busy living, or get busy dying. Only you get to decide if you remain a failure or not. The world isn't pretty. It's not going to tell you that you're a good boy/girl and tuck you in at night. If you want to CALL YOURSELF an adult, you must ACT LIKE IT and RISE to the challenge.

It's level 90 to 100. It's not Satasha anymore. Difficulty SHOULD and WILL increase whether you like it or not. You do not have to participate. You can sit on the side lines and cry about how your disability or baldness or Taco Bell induced diarrhea is keeping you from clearing x y or z content...but it's not anything but your own mind. It's just that simple. So many people with limitations either humble themselves and realize when they are just not going to make it without some serious help, or, they give up and remain a failure. But you know what? If someone is eating floor while having a disability and voices that they want to keep trying? I will STAY IN THAT INSTANCE and MAKE ANOTHER if we time out because that person has decided that they are a winner, not a loser and they are a fighter, not a folder. They are willing to get in that arena, and I will stay with them as long as they want to keep trying. I respect people that fail and try again. I don't respect whiny kiddos that make everything into an excuse and why I should feel bad for them.

I don't feel bad for you. I feel bad for your parents and ancestors. I feel bad for everyone that believed in you, supported you, loved you, and for all that love and support you have chosen to fold. To give in. To admit that you aren't even going to bother to try and fight. No. You're just going to roll over and cry about how bad you have it. Well, like I said before: You either get busy living, or get busy dying. I suppose that you've made up your mind. Feel free to join the rest of us that didn't decide to give up when you are over your pity party.

[SamuraiMiqo]

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I don't feel bad for you. I feel bad for your parents and ancestors. I feel bad for everyone that believed in you, supported you, loved you, and for all that love and support you have chosen to fold. To give in. To admit that you aren't even going to bother to try and fight. No. You're just going to roll over and cry about how bad you have it. Well, like I said before: You either get busy living, or get busy dying. I suppose that you've made up your mind. Feel free to join the rest of us that didn't decide to give up when you are over your pity party.

Seek Therapy.

[hynaku]

I feel like since DT released there has been a huge problem on this forum of toxic casual players. The casual playerbase in this game tends to want the whole game catered to them and cause a fuss when they perceive something in the game that isn't. Examples include complaining ultimate content is taking too much dev time and axolotl mount needs savage completion among others.

Since DT these people are becoming out of control and we need to be careful what feedback the dev team are taking from this. If you read this forum then every duty would be tuned to very easy and the dungeons would be walking simulators.

You can spot these people easily by the amount of threads complaining that dungeons are too hard, story is bad, and complaining about the graphics update.

This part of the playerbase doesn't understand that Stormblood was the best expansion content and job balance wise, and the constant complaining at the time that it was bad is what led to the jobs being the way they are now. Stormblood job design was on the whole pretty peak, but the large amount of players complaining about the skill gap meant we have the job gameplay we do now. They complained about fantastic content like eureka and bozja and that's what led to the relics becoming a shop purchase.

You don't see much dissenting opinion on here because you get shot down and dog piled by the toxic casual brigade who will not accept that the majority of the playerbase is currently having a blast playing DT. Most of the people I know enjoyed the story and the ones that didn't enjoy it were able to give nuanced reasons why and not just "WUK LAMAT BAD LOL"

Please dont let this forum be representative of the playerbase as a whole. I hope yoshi p does not use this feedback to neuter the game even more,.

The same thing goes with those that are hardcore players and forgetting about those that are not and then calls them toxic.

[AddictedToWitches]

Have you ever stopped to consider that what you consider "frustrating and unfun" encounters plenty of other people find them engaging and fun? This just sounds like people who hate Souls games and so go "THIS IS OBJECTIVELY BAD AND UNFUN AND PEOPLE ONLY FORCE THEMSELVES TO PLAY IT SO THEY CAN BRAG ABOUT BEATING IT".

Like seriously if you don't like something that's fine, but stop trying to morally justify your position by convincing yourself everybody else is just lying to spite you. I promise you it's not that deep lol

Being a masochist doesn't automatically mean suffering pain should be widely considered as fun

What are your examples of "frustrating and unfun encounters"? I'm curious to know.

I ran through TEA when it was on content, as well as E8S and those were two of the most fun raid experiences I've had in the game, despite them allegedly being brutal.

Shadowbringers was overall pretty good for the most part. I cannot recall any actual fight I would classify as frustrating or explicitly unfun, except maybe light rampant. but you could definitely see the escalation of things to being how they were in Endwalker.
Endwalker in particular is where things have gotten out of hand.
Of pandaemonium, P1-2S are great. 1s is a little boring though. 2S should be recognized as a gold standard of content.
3S was complete and utter dogshit raid design. Visual clutter and obnoxiously bright, unforgiving mechanics and the fight itself drug on way too long, but that's par for the course for a phoenix fight.
4S also kind of cringe, 1st half of 4S honestly sucks but second half is alright.
second tier was all abysmal dogshit, overly complicated garbage and obnoxious encounter design, I think only P6S had remotely entertaining mechanics
third tier was more of the same, I honestly skipped third tier and never did it when it was relevant because I was done at that point, and I knew from just watching videos and streams about it that my decision was right.
I have not done DSR or TOP, and have no desire to. I have a general disdain for ultimates because they go on too long so they are all more trials of attrition. (also the ultimate weapons are all awful glow vomit and unappealing but that's just me)
Dawntrail, at the very least so far, has been very good. the normal arcadion raids are already very fun and just hard enough I feel to satisfy everyone, I have high hopes for savage but to be completely honest I have no static and no desire to prog savage anymore.
The biggest problem with "hardcore players" in XIV is honestly the elitist mentality, and unfortunately this mentality is just enabled by almost everyone and the devs turn a blind eye. No one is willing to own up to their own mistakes, everyone wants CLEAR NOW and don't realize wiping is part of learning. The "upper echelons" of raiders in this game are filled with epeen strokers.

[Zakuyia]

Besides the terrible va directions and glue wuk lamat simulator the story is bad for allot of reasons.... game difficulty is chief kiss plus I want the arcadia raids to be difficult the first tier are easy come back and complain when the mid tier and last tier are released XD. All jokes I agree the rampant complaints are getting outta hand.

[Zakuyia]

The same thing goes with those that are hardcore players and forgetting about those that are not and then calls them toxic.

I don't blame them for being toxic. Sometimes you gotta gate keep. Yeah it may not be liked but surprise if your defending the game difficulty some may view that as gate keeping. So yeah were kinda toxic as well when basically telling casuals to get better at the game and to not make the game easy.