Problem with toxic casual players on this forum

[TheRealQuah]

I feel like since DT released there has been a huge problem on this forum of toxic casual players. The casual playerbase in this game tends to want the whole game catered to them and cause a fuss when they perceive something in the game that isn't. Examples include complaining ultimate content is taking too much dev time and axolotl mount needs savage completion among others.

Since DT these people are becoming out of control and we need to be careful what feedback the dev team are taking from this. If you read this forum then every duty would be tuned to very easy and the dungeons would be walking simulators.

You can spot these people easily by the amount of threads complaining that dungeons are too hard, story is bad, and complaining about the graphics update.

This part of the playerbase doesn't understand that Stormblood was the best expansion content and job balance wise, and the constant complaining at the time that it was bad is what led to the jobs being the way they are now. Stormblood job design was on the whole pretty peak, but the large amount of players complaining about the skill gap meant we have the job gameplay we do now. They complained about fantastic content like eureka and bozja and that's what led to the relics becoming a shop purchase.

You don't see much dissenting opinion on here because you get shot down and dog piled by the toxic casual brigade who will not accept that the majority of the playerbase is currently having a blast playing DT. Most of the people I know enjoyed the story and the ones that didn't enjoy it were able to give nuanced reasons why and not just "WUK LAMAT BAD LOL"

Please dont let this forum be representative of the playerbase as a whole. I hope yoshi p does not use this feedback to neuter the game even more,.

[Dovaah]

Story is bad though. And no, it's not because of Wuk Lamat.

Difficulty is great and the graphics update just require its own time to flourish.

You're making broad statements here heh

[AvoSturmfaust]

Thats the Issue i saw so far too, the Toxic Casuals want to play the Game with one Hand and closed Eyes and just spamming 1 1 1 1 1 1, if they cant do it the complain weave beginns until SE nerfs everything to the ground.

I got a big advice for these kind of player, you dont like Raids? You think they are too hard? Dont play em, Ex Trials too hard? Dont play em, let other people have fun too, its not only about you and your need to get everything on the easiest mode ever.

[aiqa]

I dont see how (dis)liking the story is in any way connected to being casual or not.
I dont see how (dis)liking the (part of the) graphic update is in any way connected to being casual or not.
I am 100% sure job and role balance has some glaring issues, I don't see how pointing those out is toxic.
And if casual players are toxic for complaining about the difficulty of casual content not matching their skill level.... the higher skilled players have been doing the same for years.

From what I see all points in the OP are just differences of opinion. I guess it's normal these days, for certain groups of people, to call everyone that has a different opinion "toxic".

[PercibelTheren]

I'm sorry but what does being a casual have to do with someone's opinion on DT's story? Anecdotal evidence against your anecdotal evidence: my FC basically turned to a support group for 2 weeks when everyone was going through the MSQ. Everyone's opinions range from "that was meh" to "that was really bad". And no, for most people it isn't just "Wuk Lamat bad".

[lolnotacat]

Wuk Lamat Bad lol

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[Rueby]

You think Yoshi P reads this unmoderated wasteland?

[fioravictorine]

What? Why are you dragging people who are criticizing the MSQ into this?

Fine

Square Enix, the dungeons are way too hard, hardcore players have Ex/Savage/Ultimates anyway, just leave the normal content alone. I just want to have a relaxing evening and want to be able to do it blindfolded please

Jobs are also too hard, I want less buttons to press and less things to keep track off

[Petroglyph]

The story complaints has nothing to do with casuals lol

you have to discount casuals that like it if you discount casuals that dislike it; likewise that did it fast and did/didn't like it. otherwise where it concerns the pve content, I see where you're coming from. I don't think the new normal content is any harder or weirder than Neir raid 3, at least as far as my personal experience is concerned, just a few more moving parts. Vanguard and Alexandria is awesome fun... but it is different, and maybe more adventurous, so I can see at them being shaken. but I want to add in that I love the new normal stuff, I seldom have to stay fully aware and engaged in MSQ dungeons, and it's nice and fun to feel like "oo lookit me, I did that mechanic perfectly >"