Problem with toxic casual players on this forum

[EponaTBHSMH]

I think OP isn't trusting SE enough to be able to tell the difference between all these feedbacks and determine what's relevant or not.

I'm convinced that these forums, and reviews are not their only source of feedback and that they have access to other type of data that helps them make the best(?) decisions

[Petroglyph]

when I'm in a crazy person contest but my opponent is Aurelius2625 on the ffxiv forums

"life sucks so video games should provide no relief, because life won't" is wild. dispassionate at best and malignant at worst. it's okay if someone thinks stuff is too hard in general and weighs in. maybe the devs missed the mark by a small margin and the feedback helps bring it inline with their vision.

[koko-on-da-forumz]

How are there 13 pages of people falling for the world's most obvious bait post?

Are they stupid?

[NekoNova]

How are there 13 pages of people falling for the world's most obvious bait post?

Are they stupid?

just seeking entertainment amongst the myriad of drama posts.
It's like the endtimes have come to the forum.

[hynaku]

I feel like since DT released there has been a huge problem on this forum of toxic casual players. The casual playerbase in this game tends to want the whole game catered to them and cause a fuss when they perceive something in the game that isn't. Examples include complaining ultimate content is taking too much dev time and axolotl mount needs savage completion among others.

Since DT these people are becoming out of control and we need to be careful what feedback the dev team are taking from this. If you read this forum then every duty would be tuned to very easy and the dungeons would be walking simulators.

You can spot these people easily by the amount of threads complaining that dungeons are too hard, story is bad, and complaining about the graphics update.

This part of the playerbase doesn't understand that Stormblood was the best expansion content and job balance wise, and the constant complaining at the time that it was bad is what led to the jobs being the way they are now. Stormblood job design was on the whole pretty peak, but the large amount of players complaining about the skill gap meant we have the job gameplay we do now. They complained about fantastic content like eureka and bozja and that's what led to the relics becoming a shop purchase.

You don't see much dissenting opinion on here because you get shot down and dog piled by the toxic casual brigade who will not accept that the majority of the playerbase is currently having a blast playing DT. Most of the people I know enjoyed the story and the ones that didn't enjoy it were able to give nuanced reasons why and not just "WUK LAMAT BAD LOL"

Please dont let this forum be representative of the playerbase as a whole. I hope yoshi p does not use this feedback to neuter the game even more,.

The same thing goes with those that are hardcore players and forgetting about those that are not and then calls them toxic.

[Zakuyia]

The same thing goes with those that are hardcore players and forgetting about those that are not and then calls them toxic.

I don't blame them for being toxic. Sometimes you gotta gate keep. Yeah it may not be liked but surprise if your defending the game difficulty some may view that as gate keeping. So yeah were kinda toxic as well when basically telling casuals to get better at the game and to not make the game easy.

[Zakuyia]

Besides the terrible va directions and glue wuk lamat simulator the story is bad for allot of reasons.... game difficulty is chief kiss plus I want the arcadia raids to be difficult the first tier are easy come back and complain when the mid tier and last tier are released XD. All jokes I agree the rampant complaints are getting outta hand.

[Colt47]

The only reason we have toxic anything is because the game itself is a quagmire of not knowing which way it wants to go. Making content super easy is not what defines a game as being casual: it's the amount of time that someone has to spend to access and play the different kinds of content. Elden Ring is 100% more casual friendly then FFXIV in terms of the gameplay systems. Sure, someone can power level something to 100 fairly swiftly, but then that says nothing about getting the gear required to do basic things like make the current tier of food, armor, and weapons, or just participating in the content that is built to be challenging. The only way someone can call an MMO casual is if they are literally only playing up to the point the game begins to throw in the breaks. Otherwise, it's 100% a hobby game.