DRK needs more self-sustain in dungeons

[SapphireWeapon]

I'm posting this here instead of on the job-specific section because this is something I want to piggyback off of the whole issue surrounding healers in the game; it's not purely about DRK.

Story: Rolled Lunar Subterrane in roulettes, 14min elapsed. Party at the first boss. I don't ask why they need a tank. Relatively uneventful run until the last boss, wherein the healer of the group dies to a mech very early in the fight. No back-up healing in DPS, so the entire party wipes before long. This happens four times. After the fourth time, the healer leaves without saying anything. Then we had to wait to get another healer.

Had I been literally any other tank, we wouldn't have had to facewall that boss four times, and we wouldn't have had to wait. I could've gotten the group through without a healer. But I was on DRK, so we had to spend about fifteen minutes wiping and running back.

This is a two-fold problem:

1. DRK should not be the odd man out in this. If even one other tank lacked the ability to self-sustain the way DRK does, I wouldn't be upset -- if there was a distinction between offense-focused tanks and defense-focused tanks, I would've just accepted I was using an offense-focused tank, and that'd be that. Note that I am not advocating for self-sustain to be taken from other tanks; I'm just giving an example.

2. I should not have the thought: I could've gotten us through without a healer. If a dungeon requires someone in the healer role in order for the queue to pop, then a healer should be mandatory mechanically. This goes back to the problem with healers in general and part of what they tried to strike over. I noticed that even Dawntrail's MSQ saw the cracks in the game's current design surrounding this, as they put DPS jobs (RDM) in dedicated healer slots for duty support, because having a dedicated healer wasn't really necessary.

If the intention from Square Enix is for MSQ dungeons (as Lunar Subterrane is) to be simple enough to be run without healers, then healers should not be necessary for the queue.

If the intention from Square Enix is for healers to be required in dungeons, then dungeons should require healers as part of their design.

Both of these are macro problems that will require more than just a simple patch to fix, and I get that. And so, in the meantime, what can be added in a patch is self-sustain abilities for DRK. With the game being as it is, DRK needs to be beefed in such a way to survive in a dungeon environment, because they are the only tank who cannot.

I understand that jobs are tuned and balanced around raids, but I need to be able to get my damn DRK to max level in the first place in order to get to the raid. And in order to do that, unless I decide to go nuts and only do alliance roulette and PvP, I'm going to have to run dungeons.

And right now, with the way the game is, running DRK is miserable to run in dungeons.

[Saraide]

Self sustain on other tanks absolutely should be nerfed. Criterion has already found a way to address the topic of 'our only healer died, what do we do?' by giving everyone a one time rez.

Also Drk isnt balanced in raid content either. The job just sucks in the current balance. Self and group sustain are abyssmal and damage isnt great either. Even Paladin is starting to creep up on drk now. If people werent riding for the aesthetics literally nobody would play this terrible job. It's reverse warrior now. Warrior is leading in party sustain and second in damage, drk is dead last in sustain and second to last in damage. The fact that the sustain and dps rankings for tanks are not the inverse of each other and havent been for a long time just shows how terrible SE is at balancing.

[PercibelTheren]

DRK is fine. A skilled one barely takes damage if their gear isn't absolute garbage. If anything, all other tanks should have their sustain nuked to DRK levels.

[1313]

im not reading all of that
just use living dead more often

[Asari5]

and when will the new healers learn to heal when every tank is unkillable?

[Reinha]

Other tanks should be nerfed to DRK sustain levels and there should be more ways to revive a dead healer instead of making it easy for everyone else to heal themselves and each other.

[SapphireWeapon]

there should be more ways to revive a dead healer instead of making it easy for everyone else to heal themselves and each other.

I like this train of thought also as well.

[Laerune]

I don't like it when all classes are the same, but as a healer, whenever I get a DRK, I do notice how fast their hp drop and how often they need me to heal them. Other tanks don't have this issue.

So I agree, give DRK the same love that warrior has received.

[DaveFishnomer]

No,

Yes, DRK is scuffed as ****, I say that as a DRK main, but the solution is not to make it have more self sustain, the solution should be
A. Make it do more damage, that is the entire point of a DRK, having less sustained for extra DMG, but that was not the case sense HW.
B. Nerf self sustain across all tanks, WAR should have the most, but it's way way way too much rn.

[lolnotacat]

I don't like it when all classes are the same, but as a healer, whenever I get a DRK, I do notice how fast their hp drop and how often they need me to heal them. Other tanks don't have this issue.

So I agree, give DRK the same love that warrior has received.

I don't really notice it in Trials or Raids, but it's ridiculously noticeable in dungeons.