You pull you tank question.

[VoidsentStatus]

I think my youtube link is more relevant

https://youtu.be/lWsuokWmEZI

It is. Good to see you and the others that spent 5+ pages thinking every YPYT tank is some single pull trash that can't play the game, that I lie about woo woo woo, are quiet and can't say anything beside memes and slinging random arguments xD All of you were just entertainment until it just gonna be a record playing the same things over and over and no new amusement was gonna get sucked out. Like, you're actually a bunch of randoms to me. I could tell none of you have been raid leaders in your life because you don't put your performance or money where your mouth is. Back on DCUO, we swindled randoms for money when they wanted to talk crazy, but apparently everyone is broke here or knows they're just about hot air. Not worth the back and forth after it's not fun.

[LilyPendragon]

Whatever helps you sleep at night bub

[Kaurhz]

While you were typing all of that foolishness (check the timestamps, I'm east coast), I did the Mt. Gulg penta and triple pulls, saving a sprout picto that pulled early by accident and communicating with my healer about what I wanted to do and got a triple commendation. Apparently people like the way I run things. When I stop getting commendations from every healer I run with on demand, we can continue this conversation. Until then, enjoy your tacos and thinking you understand the world. I'm going back to gil farming for a few hundred mil until someone posts something that catches my attention in the thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SadkPaZILvo

With all due respect, you're trying far far too hard to convince random forum users that you're adequate at the game, and it's not really having the intended effect.

Honestly...? Nobody cares if you can penta-pull Mt Gulg, or any other dungeon for that matter. Nobody cares if you can make hundreds of millions of Gil in a game that already throws Gil at you like no tomorrow.

Like, good for you?

[Ruruura]

So let us resume the thread for everyone's benefit, what seems to be the general idea is:

DPS&Healers

DPS & Healer players are allowed to do whatever they want, take decisions for the entire party, force the pace, and whether or not they are competent at their own role or even manage to stay alive thru mechanics is irrelevant.
Any and all failures or death by DPS/Healer players are automatically and preemptively forgiven because they are human, who have the right to be tired, or stressed, or be new, or be distracted, and no complaint can ever be directed towards them.

They are also not required to perform at a level even remotely close to optimal because that is just mean elitism and gatekeeping.
P:S: Commendations should be automatically given to them by the system as a default


TANKS

Tanks are meant to know every single encounter, boss, dungeon and ideal layout for every single piece of content both released AND uneleased and are meant to do perfect boss to boss pulls in the fastest and most ideal way possible.

Tanks are not allowed to feel anything at all, if you are stressed, you should not tank, if you want to take it easier to learn, you should not tank, if you feel uncomfortable in any way, you should not tank, and if you perform, it is only to be expected, easiest role.

Tanks are meant to play at world first raid progression level at all times and in all content, forgetting to use a CD even once or eating a single mechanic by mistake automatically should remove your ability to queue and it is worthy to be memed on.

Tanks should have their trust/duty support options removed and playing with their friends instead of with randoms should triple their subscription´s price.

Tanks should not be having any sort of fun and no matter how many times the group fails mechanics and how much time they waste, tanks are not allowed to solo any boss above 3% hp.
It is not really even about saving time, a tank being happy with himself in any sort of fashion simply offends god.

Tanks should not ever be given commendations and if they receive any by accident they should immediately pay 1m gil to all party members.

Did i miss anything?

[VoidsentStatus]

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With all due respect, you saying 1 dungeon run while I'm waiting for food being trying too hard made me not even read the rest of your post initially. Listen, let me just give you a small idea. I don't make hundreds of mil of gil. I've farmed over double digit billions on this game, and I'm currently at the point I could farm 4bil in a month if I felt like it. I'm already in the top 0.000001% of this community. I have double Saint of the Firmament and I'm 2 weeks away from the 500k score mount, which is one of the rarest mounts in the game for how long it takes to achieve it. I have Top 30 PvP, and regularly put 4-5 characters in Top 100 every season and coach people who regularly break Top 5 on Aether and Crystal while still gil farming. I broke this game's economy. I have the highest PvP achievement outside of Rank 1 for NA. I made a top 3 venue within 6 months and broke Aether's RP scene record for the biggest growing venue with a 1400 size, partnered with TvR who briefly franchised on EU to help with the Preach Gaming club event as well as OCE and helped start the venue/DJ scene on Materia. I own more houses than 99.999% of the people on this game. I don't have to bring up footage of when I parsed for hours daily with excel logs number crunching to the level of The Balance discord. I don't have to bring up my tank footage of elite content in my old game being tweeted out by the official game's twitter to promote the next dlc. I don't have to bring up podcasts of me and my testing partners who have World First and World Only achievements in PvE. I don't have to bring up my test server partners having 95-98 logs in Savage on this game. I have more achievements in my old game and this game than most people will have even after 2 decades of playing in the future which is why I don't take PvE seriously anymore. There's nothing meaningful left for me to do besides be a mentor to new people and compete with the homies if I feel like it. If you genuinely think 20min is too much effort, for the work ethic and portfolio of projects I had, have and manage, the amount of receipts I could've flooded this thread with, I feel truly sorry for you. Because you sound like someone who AFK's in limsa all day who can't be motivated to do anything significant worth their time if you thought that post was comment worthy. That being said, I suggest you stop derailing the thread and put a foot in your mouth like the others instead of digging up a conversation that was spawned by ungrounded toxic insults that was dead, unless you feel like adding to the toxicity yourself. By all means, you can take that option and argue with a brick wall if you have nothing better to do because I'm not giving you amusement past this post.

[Galvuu]

Did i miss anything?

I guess you missed actually reading what people are talking about, because no one sane defended 0 damage healers or single target dps.
Only tanks need to know the encounters...? What are you even going on about.
I mean, this is obviously bait, but come on... put a bit of effort into it.

Here. let me summarize it for you:
No matter what role you play, try your best to complete every duty as swiftly and cleanly as possible. If someone, somehow, is making clearing impossible, vote dismiss them. Leave your ego at the door regardless of role. There you go.

Snip.

Woa there! I didn't know we were in the presence of the gillionaire, multiple world-first, rank 1 pvp FF XIV celebrity Voidsent Veneer!
I didn't even read what the other person posted, but if you need to try this hard to flex on them, it really makes it sounds like what you're trying to argue has no legs to stand on.
What even is this thread right now...

[Kaurhz]

Snipped for brevity

All that just to not bother structuring into paragraphs and to only be redirected to this:

Honestly...? Nobody cares [Redacted]...

Like, good for you?

The Pteranodon though? Well good for you I suppose, better late than never LOL, had it for nearly 2 years and all, but there we go. It's really a shame that for all of your project work you have severely missed the point. The point was the fact you're actually going out of your way to give some weight to your adequacy to a forum user, and this is only strengthened by this inane wall of text.

But it's nice that you think I am a Limsa AFK'er. I wouldn't take about derailing the thread if I were you, when you are the one responsible for this LOL

[noelregnard]

So let us resume the thread for everyone's benefit, what seems to be the general idea is:

DPS&Healers

DPS & Healer players are allowed to do whatever they want, take decisions for the entire party, force the pace, and whether or not they are competent at their own role or even manage to stay alive thru mechanics is irrelevant.
Any and all failures or death by DPS/Healer players are automatically and preemptively forgiven because they are human, who have the right to be tired, or stressed, or be new, or be distracted, and no complaint can ever be directed towards them.

They are also not required to perform at a level even remotely close to optimal because that is just mean elitism and gatekeeping.
P:S: Commendations should be automatically given to them by the system as a default


TANKS

Tanks are meant to know every single encounter, boss, dungeon and ideal layout for every single piece of content both released AND uneleased and are meant to do perfect boss to boss pulls in the fastest and most ideal way possible.

Tanks are not allowed to feel anything at all, if you are stressed, you should not tank, if you want to take it easier to learn, you should not tank, if you feel uncomfortable in any way, you should not tank, and if you perform, it is only to be expected, easiest role.

Tanks are meant to play at world first raid progression level at all times and in all content, forgetting to use a CD even once or eating a single mechanic by mistake automatically should remove your ability to queue and it is worthy to be memed on.

Tanks should have their trust/duty support options removed and playing with their friends instead of with randoms should triple their subscription´s price.

Tanks should not be having any sort of fun and no matter how many times the group fails mechanics and how much time they waste, tanks are not allowed to solo any boss above 3% hp.
It is not really even about saving time, a tank being happy with himself in any sort of fashion simply offends god.

Tanks should not ever be given commendations and if they receive any by accident they should immediately pay 1m gil to all party members.

Did i miss anything?

Putting aside the blatant disingenuous tone of your post, the current topic here is about bad tanks. Feel free to make a thread about bad DPS and healer, I'll even go there and support you.

Also, mate, aside from getting hit in the face by the enemies, tanks don't do much anything more special than DPS and healers. Pressing some mit buttons every now and then isn't rocket science.

[GTK0HLK]

Putting aside the blatant disingenuous tone of your post, the current topic here is about bad tanks. Feel free to make a thread about bad DPS and healer, I'll even go there and support you.

Also, mate, aside from getting hit in the face by the enemies, tanks don't do much anything more special than DPS and healers. Pressing some mit buttons every now and then isn't rocket science.

On Top of that. If one of any of the players is an issue. Most Jobs Carry tools that help deal with mobs, or even bosses.

So it's not like doing so in the lowest difficulty content the game has is hard.

If someone is threatening the pace, and people's time. They are either dismissed or forgotten. and As the Party Beats thr Boss or mob packs slowly without them.

Then their Ego fades, and Reality Sets in.
(Unless they come in multiples. You can Cure Thr idiocy of a Ego Fueled Mob. One that doesn't even understand what they are on about.

a Bards "Minne" can turn the boosted Second wind into a Chunky Heal. Mantra can aid healers. Regen from Reapers and RDM Help.

And this isn't Including all the Debuff that can turn the Insta Kill Tankbuster. Into a Drops you to 20% health buster. (With Healer Shielding)

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At this point, they are pretty desperate to not see nuance, in order to keep their perception of Superiority, and Ego Chasing.

Ruruura is also so fn disingenuous, it's sickening how warped they are trying to spin things.
Do they Really Believe we don't see what they tried to pull.
Or are they actually that I'll informed of the topic that they immediately Black and White'd the Topic about Terrible Tanks With Egos.

[VoidsentStatus]

I didn't even read what the other person posted,

Starting to see why every big youtuber says to stay off the forums. literally every day is someone coming in mid-conversation, with no context, and wants to have an opinion just for the sake of having one and starting an argument.

1) No, you're not in my presence. Not in a real sense. You remind me of a venue owner I know on Aether oddly enough, and if this wasn't the forums, I would just pay someone to find out who you are because your behavior is odd considering the people I know on EU. You act surprised, almost in a condescending tone like you haven't seen people that have massive achievements in the background on Chaos and Light yet, and a part of me is curious if you're actually that oblivious to your peers or is this just forum jokes. Giving me vibes like Suhr on Crystal where he runs around random places asking for gil in venues etc. and people think he's a random, and he's like a 8 time Rank 1 PLD in PvP for Feast and CC, competed at Fanfest, and literally won tournaments that companies and big streamers like MrHappy/Rook/RinKari commentated for.

2) few correction:
"making clearing impossible" -> "making clearing more of a nuisance"
"vote dismiss them" -> "persuade them to stop being a nuisance".

You do not slide passes to annoying/negative behavior in content until it reaches a threshold. That's enabling behavior that's going to negatively affect other players, and you don't want that around sprouts who are already giving a multitude of reasons to quit the game at the start.

In addition to that, vote to dismiss actually punishes the voter more than the person that was kicked. Depending on when you kick in the instance and what their role is, them getting inside a fresh instance is going to be faster than you replacing them depending on the demographic of how people have their settings for joining in-progress instances. And you also locked yourself from being able to vote on another person for several hours in the future. Dissuading and reporting for a ban if continuation happens is more effective than just a vote to dismiss.