You pull you tank question.

[Supersnow845]

I ask them before and they are ok with it so why not something they are scared to let the tank die too but it also is a good way to keep everyone slightly happy. I have my fair share of experience good and bad I just refuse to give the others player what I got during my first time as tank that I can promise

No it’s not a matter of “I ask” it’s the fact that the game genuinely discourages chain pulling on an inexperienced healer because it taxes their MP excessively and you will generally be running between pulls at a lower HP level when they may struggle to keep them up

Either single pull or double pull but don’t chain pull

[EchoingPulse]

At the end of the day, is it really too hard for people to wait for the tank to use two AoEs before they move on to the next pull?

[Nero-Voidstails]

No it’s not a matter of “I ask” it’s the fact that the game genuinely discourages chain pulling on an inexperienced healer because it taxes their MP excessively and you will generally be running between pulls at a lower HP level when they may struggle to keep them up

Either single pull or double pull but don’t chain pull

is it tho? but again you do you I do me xx) and also teach resources management too but hey what do I know right not like I have been playing healer since I started

[Gwenkatsu]

This is not even remotely a big deal. If you pull, bring it back to me. I'll take the free mitigation while you have it.

This exactly. I hate it when some DD pulls and then runs in circles around me, always avoiding my AoE - I'm not there to play Catch the Clown.
And when this happens while I'm healing, I wait until either the aggro is on the tank, or the clown is dead - over the years I had my fair share of heal aggro, so no more for me pls.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

Wow uhh... are people this bored that they replied to a half-year old post? Lmao.

YPYT is cringe and lame. If I'm the healer in that party I'll start fishing for freecure because obviously my job is to just heal and do nothing else :3c That totally would fly proper, I'm sure! If I'm the DPS I'll stop AoEing trash pack so that one beefy dangerous mob will die first uwu.

/s

is it tho? but again you do you I do me xx) and also teach resources management too but hey what do I know right not like I have been playing healer since I started

Chain pulling essentially forces your party to stay in combat longer than intended. The benefit of exiting combat state is your party will regenerate 10% HP and 600 MP per tick. That's why chain pulling is a doodoo, no matter how you try to pull it off. If you're paired with bad healers and pull this off... well you've essentially made their job even harder. That not going to fly well.

Kill off whatever you've grouped up first, THEN run to next pack. It's not like you're under time constraint such as solo deep dungeon attempts. That few 10-20 seconds of running to next pack outside combat are free resource.

[Xapapetsu]

Ive been seeing significantly more of this since dt started-
Tank says nothing for 90% then gets mad on final pull because sm1 else pulled. Refuses to tank the mobs and even the boss.
Same story every time -

Where exactly do the GMs stand on this issue. Where exactly do the tos stand on this issue? And where do you the players stand on this issue.


Is it against tos?
If not should it be?
Are there exceptions where its okay to refuse to tank?

YPYT is one of the dumbest things tanks do. The only time a tank should speak up about larger pulls is when their mit and the healer cannot keep up with the incoming damage and this is normally only an issue when leveling through arr dungeons. I've only spoken up once when tanking a dungeon and that was because I was playing drk in an arr dungeon and my mit and the healer couldn't keep up with the damage and the brd who was pulling ahead kept pulling the same packs after 2 wipes.

[Rin_Sato]

Wow uhh... are people this bored that they replied to a half-year old post? Lmao.

YPYT is cringe and lame. If I'm the healer in that party I'll start fishing for freecure because obviously my job is to just heal and do nothing else :3c That totally would fly proper, I'm sure! If I'm the DPS I'll stop AoEing trash pack so that one beefy dangerous mob will die first uwu.

/s



Chain pulling essentially forces your party to stay in combat longer than intended. The benefit of exiting combat state is your party will regenerate 10% HP and 600 MP per tick. That's why chain pulling is a doodoo, no matter how you try to pull it off. If you're paired with bad healers and pull this off... well you've essentially made their job even harder. That not going to fly well.

Kill off whatever you've grouped up first, THEN run to next pack. It's not like you're under time constraint such as solo deep dungeon attempts. That few 10-20 seconds of running to next pack outside combat are free resource.

I almost fell for this bait, excellent writing.

[Sigma5]

Enforcement should go both ways, if dps pulls too much they should be punished for griefing, too.

[Videatur]

Enforcement should go both ways, if dps pulls too much they should be punished for griefing, too.

We are talking about a situation in which dungeons are corridors with a predetermined maximum of mobs that can be taken (2 packs -> bosses -> 2 packs -> repeat). A controlled and extremely simplified and repetitive environment and content, I find it very difficult to think that a healer cannot contain the situation regardless of the expansion the dungeon refers to (provided the tank is still alive, but in many cases is easy manage DPS health for clear however).