Difficulty of normal content.

[SirShady]

This is the "new Final Fantasy XIV". Because the reviews and the story are so bad, the only people who are buying Dawntrail are those who want to play the endgame content. FFXIV is no longer for general audiences, it's for those who've already mastered the content and want harder content. So all of the elitists have come out of the woodwork now that they finally feel it's safe to do so, and are spilling vitriol everywhere. I've even seen your post referenced in game, without anyone prompting it. They're so overjoyed that they have an expansion "just for them" and they want to make sure that no one else can ruin "their moment".

Until we get massive edits to the Dawntrail MSQ or a new starting point for new players, this is how FFXIV is going to be from now on. Odd how WoW is going to be the MMO for general audiences again for the first time in 20 years.

Or maybe the majority of the general playerbase is happy that the normal content is more interesting and engaging. When you say "just for them" and "the only people who are buying Dawntrail" you're actually just talking about most of the playerbase.

Yes, the majority of Final Fantasy players wanted this change and are happy for it. That doesn't make them toxic elitists either. I know that's a hard pill to swallow, but if you could stop being a delusional doomsayer for a second and treat people with an ounce of sympathy you might see why you sound a little silly.

[caffe_macchiato]

Or maybe the majority of the general playerbase is happy that the normal content is more interesting and engaging

Yes, the majority of Final Fantasy players wanted this change and are happy for it.

Agreed, the new content itself is good. It's not as hard as you want to think that it is. I don't understand why everyone else is acting like it's such a big change, but you are. You and your acolytes are using these tiny raid changes as an excuse to lash out against one single person who has a criticism to make. There are over 900 posts in this thread now. Most of which are spewing vitriol against just one person. FFXIV is so unlike its players. I wish the players could respect what the devs were trying to do, but you don't. You want it to be "your time". You all saw the smidgen of changes happening in raids and used them as a shield to do things that are very against TOS. You all have swarmed every corner of the forums, Reddit, in-game chat, and elsewhere, just within the past week. It's incredible how quick everyone's programming changed.

That doesn't make them toxic elitists either.

Telling someone to uninstall the game is a bit too far.

I'm thankful for the OPs post. The sheer amount of push back this post has gained from multiple sides of the community surely will tell the devs all they need to know about what direction they should be taking concerning fight design.

Actually, the devs mostly read the Japanese forums, and they are complaining a lot more than we are, mainly about hitboxes and clipping. Their community is less of a hivemind and their national economy doesn't rely on YouTubers and Twitch streamers dictating what they're allowed to think.

[Oku-1]

Agreed, the new content itself is good. It's not as hard as you want to think that it is. I don't understand why everyone else is acting like it's such a big change, but you are. You and your acolytes are using these tiny raid changes as an excuse to lash out against one single person who has a criticism to make. There are over 900 posts in this thread now. Most of which are spewing vitriol against just one person. FFXIV is so unlike its players. I wish the players could respect what the devs were trying to do, but you don't. You want it to be "your time". You all saw the smidgen of changes happening in raids and used them as a shield to do things that are very against TOS. You all have swarmed every corner of the forums, Reddit, in-game chat, and elsewhere, just within the past week. It's incredible how quick everyone's programming changed.



Telling someone to uninstall the game is a bit too far.



Actually, the devs mostly read the Japanese forums, and they are complaining a lot more than we are, mainly about hitboxes and clipping. Their community is less of a hivemind and their national economy doesn't rely on YouTubers and Twitch streamers dictating what they're allowed to think.

You are by far the most toxic person I've seen in this thread at this point.

This impulsive, violent hatred you seem to have for people simply voicing their disagreement with the OP is wild. You're trying to imply "the majority of people here are spitting vitriol because they're a hivemind that follows youtubers" like do you actually hear yourself right now? Can you genuinely tell me that you honestly think that you are totally in the right and a good and pure little angel when you say nonsense like that?

Meanwhile in a previous post you're trying to bring up the "reviews" of Dawntrail which are near entirely positive except for Steam where a bunch of scathingly bigoted individuals are leaving nasty reviews calling Wuk Lamat's VA slurs and whining about "wokeness", ironically because those people actually do just go attack and harass people at the behest of a handful of culture war grifters on twitter.

Please take a breath and log off. You're not helping the OP.

[caffe_macchiato]

You are by far the most toxic person I've seen in this thread at this point.

Stating my opinion is not "violent". Telling someone to quit playing the game and uninstall is a violation of the TOS. You are only lashing out because you feel threatened that the developers will take away "your" content if OP is allowed to comment. Final Fantasy XIV is a video game. If the game ends up not being for you, then don't play. There are people who have gotten far too aggressive on both sides, mainly yours, because they don't want to lose "their" game.

Also, Dawntrail is the worst-reviewed FFXIV expansion on every aggregate site, for critics and for community, and is even lower than Dragonflight, FFXIV's main competitor. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact.

[Slab_Rockjaw]

Also, Dawntrail is the worst-reviewed FFXIV expansion on every aggregate site, for critics and for community, and is even lower than Dragonflight, FFXIV's main competitor. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact.

And nearly every review states to the effect: the content is great and the difficulty increase was much needed, but we didn't like the story. So, you know, it would be reviewed far worse if OP got his way.

[Volfe]

Also, Dawntrail is the worst-reviewed FFXIV expansion on every aggregate site, for critics and for community, and is even lower than Dragonflight, FFXIV's main competitor. That's not my opinion, that's just a fact.

You are either extremely dense or a dedicated troll, find more productive stuff to do.

[caffe_macchiato]

You are either extremely dense or a dedicated troll, find more productive stuff to do.

[Sprag]

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"worst reviewed" doesn't mean the expac is bad, dawntrail is still a relatively well received expac due to its gameplay being far better than endwalker. this argument of "IT'S THE WORST REVIEWED!" means nothing to what the actual argument is about, especially when most negative reviews of dawntrail are criticizing the writing & voice acting, not the difficulty. dawntrail is also the most recent expac, give it time & i bet it'll be higher than ARR & heavensward.

[HemlockEvergreen]

The mixed reviews is because the MSQ is kinda mid. Don't be disingenuous.

[Volgia]

What does this have to do with the difficulty of the game? Did the reviewers gave it a lower score because they couldn't do the content?