Difficulty of normal content.

[R1V3N]

I think that all the content in this new expansion is as demanding as it should be. You are expected to do more effort than you did in the past since that's supposed to be the progression in a game, not a grind for xp.

Mechanics and patters are working perfectly, Honey B. is not random, no she is not. Some people who don't pay enough attention can mistakenly think she is, but it follows a pattern, as His Royal Headness Leonogg I does. (Patterns related to current players positions). So no "headless chicken evading", just some thinking.

I know, that not doing some content because its too difficult for you can be frustrating, and that this might mean "not enough content" for "casuals". But its not like that, the content is just not made for people who wont put basic effort, because content is supposed to require attention.

Maybe the problem is not the game, maybe its that game is not for people like you. Not every game is for everyone, and a game with 33 skill buttons doesn't look like its made for people who don't care enough (though it has been happening for a long time).

If you played any rpg at all such as any other final fantasy you will be able to notice that the skill you are required to defeat final boss is not the same as you are required at the middle of the story, and that's ok, that's how its supposed to be.

Also, that the dungeons and raids have happened to be doable without any effort doesn't mean that that is how its supposed to be done, maybe behind every dungeon done poorly was a healer sweating, or a timer going to 30 mins instead of 15.

Content is cool, content right now is in a great moment of skill expectation. And some players may have to hit the training dummy a little yeah, but surely its not hard enough for anyone to really struggle.

[W0rldsastag3]

Agree with the thread (and the Japanese players) content is way too hard this expac. The game built a fanbase who likes content a certain way and y'all want to make it too challenging and squeeze everyone who has been here eight years out. I just won't play anymore.

[Enclavex]

Agree with the thread (and the Japanese players) content is way too hard this expac. The game built a fanbase who likes content a certain way and y'all want to make it too challenging and squeeze everyone who has been here eight years out. I just won't play anymore.

Except 8 years ago this game was tougher than it is right now.

[Mizore11]

Agree with the thread (and the Japanese players) content is way too hard this expac. The game built a fanbase who likes content a certain way and y'all want to make it too challenging and squeeze everyone who has been here eight years out. I just won't play anymore.

This game was and always will be focusing on the casual playerbase. Raiding on this game was always a niche content. Especially in the direction on Ultimates.
Even the classes you are playing are balanced so literally everyone can play them.
The most amount of content thats provided to the players is also for casuals.

And now the difficulty of normal stuff got slightly increased and its to hard now? Its not even near the difficulty of Extremes, Savage and Ultimates.

Also you are wrong. You, the OP and a few others in this Thread are a minority of players for who the game is to hard. You are not the "built fanbase" you are talking about. Im sorry, but thats the truth. You are not a midcore player and not even casual player. Because these are mostly satisfied with the changes and dont complain and also are the biggest part of the "built fanbase".

That you are now accusing us to "squeeze everyone" is just ignorant, since u people literally doing it yourself right now.

As you mentioned you wont play anymore - this is the right choice, because it seems like this is not a game for you. And thats totally fine.

[Deejudanne]

The fact that it's public in no way excuses the risk involved. If I'm a teacher and I have an adult audience (because I know what I'm going to get if I talk about children), I'm asked not to humiliate one of the speakers in public - even if they ask stupid questions. If I film someone doing something stupid in the street and post it on the internet, it's still disgusting - even if they were doing it in public.

It's the same here. You can discuss the subject completely anonymously, without pointing the finger directly at the thread. I'm going to stop the conversation there, it is, after all, out of topic. But I find it frankly nauseating that the responsibility of youtubers is never called into question with excuses as flimsy as: ‘yes, but it's public... So the person's looking for a minimum, isn't he?’ or “they're not responsible for their community” (they are, as I said above, that's one of the basics of being a youtuber).

They've been fighting for a long time to be recognised as legitimate professionals in the world of entertainment. They've more or less succeeded, and I think that's great - now it's time to remember that any profession requires a minimum of responsibility, and that of not calling for a form of public humiliation, even if it's indirect, goes with it.

Anyway, back to the topic.

the risk of what? getting eyes from people who don't agree with you?

[Kiurt]

Agree with the thread (and the Japanese players) content is way too hard this expac. The game built a fanbase who likes content a certain way and y'all want to make it too challenging and squeeze everyone who has been here eight years out. I just won't play anymore.

You guys got too used to Endwalker. Endwalker was a great cinematic experience. Besides that ? Everything else did hurt the game.

You do that, get back to EW level of content designs, FFXIV wont survive the next 2 expansions without even more radical changes. Endwalker 6.0 got hyped to heaven thanks to WoW Shadowlands and streamers starting to play it. Game was losing players afterwards during 6.1-6.5 because of how weak the patches (MSQ/Content wise) and boring the dungeons/trials/raids were.

[HemlockEvergreen]

You guys got too used to Endwalker. Endwalker was a great cinematic experience. Besides that ? Everything else did hurt the game.

You do that, get back to EW level of content designs, FFXIV wont survive the next 2 expansions without even more radical changes. Endwalker 6.0 got hyped to heaven thanks to WoW Shadowlands and streamers starting to play it. Game was losing players afterwards during 6.1-6.5 because of how weak the patches (MSQ/Content wise) and boring the dungeons/trials/raids were.

To be fully honest here, DSR is one of the best designed fights in the game and it came in Endwalker. But that's for a niche audience. For other high-end content it was very hit or miss. DSR is great, but TOP is widely considered to have big design issues. Anabaseios Savage was very nice, Abyssos Savage had issues. Barbariccia Ex was great, Rubicante Ex was pretty bad. And yeah all of the normal mode content was a pushover.

Still waiting to see how Arcadion Savage will hold up, and if FRU is gonna be good, but the normal mode changes make me very hopeful and I'm hyped. DT shows a significant improvement in the encounter design department.

[NightHour]

Agree with the thread (and the Japanese players) content is way too hard this expac. The game built a fanbase who likes content a certain way and y'all want to make it too challenging and squeeze everyone who has been here eight years out. I just won't play anymore.

That's a you problem.

Improve as a player.

[AurisNix]

Agree with the thread (and the Japanese players) content is way too hard this expac. The game built a fanbase who likes content a certain way and y'all want to make it too challenging and squeeze everyone who has been here eight years out. I just won't play anymore.

Now this is a good reaction, is okey to stop playing the game, if the game is not for you anymore then just leave, wanna find out how hard the game is? Someone in this thread had the best response ever go do older content in Minimum Item Level with no Echo, I would love to see ppl doing some of ARR dungeons like that, there still are dungeons in ARR that needs good healing and mits to not wipe, pulling wall to wall is super hard.

One of the best moments I had in this game was playing with a tank in DF that had huge limitations and did this macro explaining it, was a very hard dungeon as well and that person was a champ wall to wall pulls perfectly timed mits and not a single death. And I could see that person had trouble moving the character but still did it super fine and dodge alot of boss attacks, I cannot imagine someone saying this game is too hard when this community have players like that and do fine, after 100 levels, after years of playing, after seen tons of mechs (same mechs that still are the same in DT only showed in a different way) still struggle to play the game. Thats a YOU problem not an issue with the game or the design, whats an issue with a game is when you basically do NOTHING other than just walk and the game plays itself for you and btw you already have that option EW was everything about it you have trust system and npcs that will never die and do all the mechs you can just walk and follow for all the MSQ

[caffe_macchiato]

850 posts in this thread and 30 other threads. All from a single post from a single person. OP is the most powerful person in the FFXIV community right now and has you all in a vicegrip.

One (more) note: a lot of you use the standard-issue "you should know the game by level 100 and 300 hours of play time" cope. And that's true! But what of the rest of the game? Are you seriously suggesting that Final Fantasy XIV is a good game while also requiring every player to trudge through 300 hours and 100 levels of absolute boredom? The entire game is single player until level 100. Final Fantasy XIV will experience a terminal decline in player count. While obviously this is the developers' fault, your new standard-issue cope is also at fault because you aren't even giving people the option of using a skip. Final Fantasy XIV can no longer be called a good game for the vast majority of gamers and I would never recommend a new player start now.