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  1. #821
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    Quote Originally Posted by Merrigan View Post
    The problem is that he could have made a video, without pointing the finger at a particular thread. He masked the OP's name (for legal reasons more than anything else, I imagine?); nonetheless, it can be found in two seconds. Linked to the player's virtual identity. And from then on, causing problems / raids.
    Okay, look, full disclosure: I didn't watch the video and I didn't come here because of it. I came here because reddit suggested this would be a good place to provide positive feedback towards DT where the devs are watching. I love the DT content so I did so. My comment was not directed at this video but a general statement: directing people here to counter a, imo, harmful sentiment that the game should return to 15 second cast bars for single mechanics and zero-thought content. If they did, in fact, tell people to come here and call the OP a maidenless n00b or whatever that's obviously wrong. I yield that point if it's the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizore11 View Post
    There have been more than enough people answering the OP why his take is not good. Did u read his responses tho? He literally doesnt care at all. He thinks hes representing the "casual" players, which he doesnt. Hes part of a minority accusing people of forcing what they pref on people like him while literally doing the same. Also since Arthars made a video bout this he acts like a child. ... He never wanted to discuss with people not sharing his view, which he clearly stated already...
    It does sound, from the recent comments as highlighted here, that in fact it's the opposite. OP is being unreasonable and the youtuber simply pointed it out. There's nothing wrong with pointing at a public post on a public forum where someone is being unreasonable.
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    Last edited by Slab_Rockjaw; 07-21-2024 at 12:00 AM.

  2. #822
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    That is insane logic.

    Also, it's a public forum.
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  3. #823
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    Okay, look, full disclosure: I didn't watch the video and I didn't come here because of it. I came here because reddit suggested this would be a good place to provide positive feedback towards DT where the devs are watching. I love the DT content so I did so. My comment was not directed at this video but a general statement: directing people here to counter a, imo, harmful sentiment that the game should return to 15 second cast bars for single mechanics and zero-thought content. If they did, in fact, tell people to come here and call the OP a maidenless n00b or whatever that's obviously wrong. I yield that point if it's the case.
    I... Don't care if you in particular didn't come here after you've watch the video ? It's still a professional failure for this youtuber.

    As said before : I agree with you. I like DT content. But that's not what I'm talking about, and it doesn't mean I have to be ok with a youtuber being (once again) irresponsible.
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  4. #824
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slab_Rockjaw View Post
    It does sound, from the recent comments, that in fact it's the opposite. OP is being unreasonable and the youtuber simply pointed it out. There's nothing wrong with pointing at a public post on a public forum where someone is being unreasonable.
    Where did i say that its wrong to point it out? I literally said OP is acting like a child since Arthars reacted to it.
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  5. #825
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    First off, TC keeps bringing up this Arthar person? Yeah, no clue who that is. I found this thread organically and I'm sure I'm not the only one. TC needs pushback though because feedback like theirs in the past has gotten the game to the point it's currently at and we're only just starting to see things change and I do not want them to go back to as braindead as they were in Endwalker. The dungeons, trials and raids we have right now? Still aren't back to even pre-nerf ARR difficulty let alone Heavensward difficulty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shiroe View Post
    see entiled player here:
    "you need to learn the mechs (you lazy f...) you need to stop being carried by other (you gifting f...), otherwise dont do dungeons, normal raids & ex trials, just AFK in limsa with the crafters only"
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    some players are just not as good, incapable to learn it (time restraints, living / distraction restraints, brain or psychological restraints, etc. etc.), not saying content has to remains boring AF, but mechanical difficulty is not the only solution
    And thanks to Trusts they have that. Optional content doesn't need to cater to them as well to the detriment of the rest of the playerbase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deslyxic View Post
    No, no. I clearly state that there were 11 pages before Arthars acted, if anything that reaffirms that first pages are the normal forum activity but after that is most likely the effect of raids. Arthars and the other rage baiters (yesterday I saw another video from a creator I don't know) did me a favor of invalidating the last 70 pages.

    Invalidating peoples honest opinions like that seems you are looking to find yourself an echo chamber and seeking to discredit people who feel differently towards the content. The difficulty is not that bad as I said. This comes from someone who doesn't do savage or extremes. I am a casual player and I enjoy the added difficulty. I know people playing with 300 ping daily who complete the content with no complaints. It's not rocket science, and even if you struggle most all content can still be completed with a team that can carry you. I know it's not hard cause a good warrior player can still almost solo things by themselves. If a warrior can practically solo the content you call into question then there is really no room for complaints. ( PS this warrior was one of the people with 300 ping ). The content is fine and if you struggle getting through MSQ there are always people willing to help. I get that social anxiety exist cause that's why I haven't done savage or extremes but it's not the developers responsibility to cater to my mental health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mizore11 View Post
    Where did i say that its wrong to point it out? I literally said OP is acting like a child since Arthars reacted to it.
    I was not replying directly to you, but using your post as an example of the fact that the OP was being unreasonable and that pointing people here to counter his nonsense was not a bad move.
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  8. #828
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    I... Don't care if you in particular didn't come here after you've watch the video ? It's still a professional failure for this youtuber.

    As said before : I agree with you. I like DT content. But that's not what I'm talking about, and it doesn't mean I have to be ok with a youtuber being (once again) irresponsible..
    Explain how pointing to a public post in a public forum is irresponsible?
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    OP, people like you is the bane of this game.

    Normal mode is easy, nothing out of the ordinary for raids, maybe a tiny bit harder, but still easy. You shouldn't blame your skill issue on the content. Any game should have a degree of difficulty, and making this game super easy so you can turn off your brain while you have 3 youtube videos in the background should never be the point.
    This degree of difficulty is fine, even better than it was before, and I can't disagree more in every single point of yours and I hope the don't dumb down the game more because this has been an issue for years.

    Also, stop playing victim. No one is mobilizing their followers, you're no martyr. Is people reacting to the nonsense you post on the internet and replying because they think your take is bad. If you don't want that to happen, don't post nonsense, or even stuff, into the internet. The moment you post an opinion, the moment anyone will voice their opinion of your opinion. It is how it is. Let's grow up and stop playing victim.
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  10. #830
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slab_Rockjaw View Post
    Explain how pointing to a public post in a public forum is irresponsible?
    The fact that it's public in no way excuses the risk involved. If I'm a teacher and I have an adult audience (because I know what I'm going to get if I talk about children), I'm asked not to humiliate one of the speakers in public - even if they ask stupid questions. If I film someone doing something stupid in the street and post it on the internet, it's still disgusting - even if they were doing it in public.

    It's the same here. You can discuss the subject completely anonymously, without pointing the finger directly at the thread. I'm going to stop the conversation there, it is, after all, out of topic. But I find it frankly nauseating that the responsibility of youtubers is never called into question with excuses as flimsy as: ‘yes, but it's public... So the person's looking for a minimum, isn't he?’ or “they're not responsible for their community” (they are, as I said above, that's one of the basics of being a youtuber).

    They've been fighting for a long time to be recognised as legitimate professionals in the world of entertainment. They've more or less succeeded, and I think that's great - now it's time to remember that any profession requires a minimum of responsibility, and that of not calling for a form of public humiliation, even if it's indirect, goes with it.

    Anyway, back to the topic.
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