You pull you tank question.

[noelregnard]

Ah, thanks for proving my point. The fact you consider mitigation rotating only involving a set of amount of buttons proves my point. You're just a trust NPC. You don't play with the order of your mitigation, the strength of the adds damage and survival time, or the timing between them as a consideration in gameplay. You just braindead 1-2-3 and deal with the consequences afterward.

Imagine thinking the order of mitigation buttons pressed matters in dungeons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[VoidsentStatus]

Imagine thinking the order of mitigation buttons pressed matters in dungeons ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Go run Stone Vigil as a GNB with a sprout WHM using Cure 1 and do the first wall to wall pull with Reprisal first, and then Arm's Length and come back to me.

[noelregnard]

Go run Stone Vigil as a GNB with a sprout WHM using Cure 1 and do the first wall to wall pull with Reprisal first, and then Arm's Length and come back to me.

LMAO I can think of stupid scenarios too

Still have no idea how any of this nonsense justifies YPYT but please continue, this is so funny

[VoidsentStatus]

LMAO I can think of stupid scenarios too

Still have no idea how any of this nonsense justifies YPYT but please continue, this is so funny

By stupid scenarios, you mean things that would actually happen? You think people have to argue on the forums and in discords about Cure1/2 just for their health and not because Cure 1 use is common? You think having a WHM that's heal botting and not using Holy is an unrealistic situation? You think healers not knowing to keep HoT's up at all times is unrealistic? There's a lot of playstyles you run into if you actually pugged dungeons a lot, and which playstyle you have, you wouldn't know until after you already pulled. But because you're a trust NPC and don't care about mitigation order, you wouldn't have a problem doing a wall to wall on the first pull of any dungeon (Stone Vigil included) completely blind on your healer's capabilities and using your weakest mitigation first on the one of the hardest hitting pulls inside of the leveling process within the first 2-3 expansions.

[noelregnard]

By stupid scenarios, you mean things that would actually happen? You think people have to argue on the forums and in discords about Cure1/2 just for their health and not because Cure 1 use is common? You think having a WHM that's heal botting and not using Holy is an unrealistic situation? You think healers not knowing to keep HoT's up at all times is unrealistic? There's a lot of playstyles you run into if you actually pugged dungeons a lot, and which playstyle you have, you wouldn't know until after you already pulled. But because you're a trust NPC and don't care about mitigation order, you wouldn't have a problem doing a wall to wall on the first pull of any dungeon (Stone Vigil included) completely blind on your healer's capabilities and using your weakest mitigation first on the one of the hardest hitting pulls inside of the leveling process within the first 2-3 expansions.

First of all I know how to cycle my mitigations so your idea of me using only reprisal for a wall to wall pull is stupid. Second of all, yes things may happen, people may die, party may wipe. So? What's your point? None of that affects the number of buttons you have nor their cooldowns. Do you even know how to cycle your mitigations? And none of this justifies YPYT either so all of this crap is completely pointless.

[VoidsentStatus]

First of all I know how to cycle my mitigations so your idea of me using only reprisal for a wall to wall pull is stupid. Second of all, yes things may happen, people may die, party may wipe. So? What's your point? None of that affects the number of buttons you have nor their cooldowns. Do you even know how to cycle your mitigations? And none of this justifies YPYT either so all of this crap is completely pointless.

1) You're the one that said order didn't matter. Now you're backpeddling out of that opinion when there's a blatant death situation for the wrong decision of order.

2) If you died, that means you failed to understand the ability of your kit as well as your group's. If you don't have analytical skills for what you can and can't handle and have variance available in your playstyle, you're not a good player. Either you:
A) only do what you're told by someone else who likely didn't want to bother you with nuance and detail for your sake and theirs
B) you're brain off and don't care about dying and would do the same dead-pending pull over and over again with no adjustment
or
C) pull a BLM saying "healer adjust" and likely get kicked.

3) Clearly I know how to mitigate cooldowns if I gave an example off the top of my head for a mitigation situation that would result in a death that you didn't consider previously. Stone Vigil is just one tank check instance. Aurum Vale, Bardam's Mettle, Dohn Mheg, Mt. Gulg will all severely punish a tank that doesn't know what they're doing while trying to run wall to wall if they don't have a good healer carrying them. I could tell you never tried to teach a new tank how to do pulls, how to rotate mitigation, how to push themselves in a safe way without wiping the group. No tank mentor would mention only doing wall to wall pulls with the same mitigation rotation every single run unless there were drastic restrictions such as last expansion dungeons only with competent healers and dps's. There's always stipulations and context.

and that is why:

4) Your opinion on YPYT is invalid. If you are a Trust NPC because that's how your friends taught you to be, you don't get to speak on things that affect the enjoyment of the game from other tanks who are trying to optimize or are trying not to get yelled at/deal with anxiety/or feeling like a nuisance to their party. You weren't taught various things or didn't experience them. And you don't care about other people's experiences. You come off as a male version of Wuk Lamat, letting everyone else do the actual work while you do the bare minimum of just being around and hitting buttons to think you're contributing and getting achievements so you think everything you're doing is working. When in reality, you're still just as naive as when you started, but because you got a few pats on the back, you think your opinion matters and you're ready to lead and have discussions about community expectations.

[noelregnard]

Blah blah blah more nonsense

1. LMAO, you really don't know anything. Lemme teach you how to tank. You need at least 20% - 30% mit for a W2W pull, that means you need at least 1 big mit button: rampart, arm's length, sentinel. Then you combine it with one of the smaller mits with shorter cooldown: sheltron, HoC, etc. THE ORDER DOESN'T MATTER as long as you have enough. No need to thank me for lesson.

2. Oh I get it now, so you, somehow think that the very basic of anything, not just gaming, is something super complicated that needs hours to master. Got it, no wonder you think reprisal alone is enough for a w2w or clemency is worth a gcd. Poor thing

3. No you don't, you think reprisal is good enough for a w2w or clemency is worth using in a standard dungeon run. You clearly don't know anything about tanking.

4. LMAO of course a YPYT chud with main character syndrome would use NPC as an insult. "LOOK AT ME I'M THE MAIN CHARACTER WHAHHHHHH". You know what, trust NPCs can actually handle a w2w and they know how to pull aggro of PT members. I'd rather be a tust NPC than a YPYT chud