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  1. #91
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    try other mmos like wow, gw2, etc.
    Hopefully they will fill the hole while you wait for 8.0. I haven't really played the game hardcore since SB so im only interested in the casual content and midcore content now. Job design is very bad so im on a similar boat.
    Also lmao yet again proven right that this community is fake nice, the second someone voices they're upset with the game they say you don't matter and belittle you. Imagine acting as if someone doesn't like the game you like is a personal attack lmao, go outside.
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  2. #92
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    Kismet Altius
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    Reaper Lv 100
    You are talking to the void, the developers do not read english general.
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  3. #93
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    OP you have better luck with Reddit than the official forums in terms of feedback.
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  4. #94
    Player Rekh's Avatar
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    Fresh Tree
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Derio View Post
    OP you have better luck with Reddit than the official forums in terms of feedback.
    Good luck criticizing xiv on reddit. You'll get down voted within the first few minutes. Square will ignore anything not on the main page of the subreddit. Square enix only cares about praise and art in social media. You have to get creative and hire an artist to explain the bad state of job/role and encounter design for them to even consider it.
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  5. #95
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Hello, all.

    My sub ends tomorrow, so I believe this will be my last message for a while--maybe until 8.0. I have not touched a single minute of Dawntrail's story, its dungeons, or its content. Yet it's not because I'm burnt out of FFXIV. On the contrary, I have a very strong urge to play through Dawntrail's content, but what I have absolutely no drive to do whatsoever is put up with Endwalker job design any longer. It's a weird feeling, having both a constant urge to want to play the game and yet dreading the idea of actually playing the game. I want to explore the Story. I refuse to put up with Dosis spam. I want to try Arcadion. I am burnt out of DPS jobs. I want to see the upcoming field operations. I have no interest in trying tank jobs. I feel torn to say the least.

    I'll get to the point. I love FFXIV, but I hate Endwalker PVE job design. I would play through the story as PVP Sage if I could, but I can't, and there's not a single PVE job that I want to touch with a 10 foot pole. Yoshi P, if you truly want FFXIV to be a game for everyone, do better.

    Because this ongoing hyper simplified job design has alienated not just me, but many others who have also resigned and left the game. There has to be a better middle ground that's still approachable but doesn't exclude the players who want to engage with job design. Don't wait for 8.0 to make changes. Just waiting for 8.0 to address these issues is cutting corners when there are things you could do now to make job design more enjoyable without sweeping reworks.

    Make healers more enjoyable now. Leave Viper alone for the players who enjoy its complexity. Restore nonstandard gameplay aspects to Black Mage and other jobs as well. There is a healthy middle ground you can achieve with job design, and this is clearly not it. Goodbye for now everyone, I hope all of you are able to find enjoyment in the jobs even if I cannot and enjoy what Dawntrail has in store. I sincerely hope I can return sooner rather than later.
    But... What's this need to tell everyone? Are you some kind of idol that everyone knows?

    I don't even know your name.
    You'll post when you get back, right? Promise!?

    xD...
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  6. #96
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    Turtledeluxe's Avatar
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    Kinda Hungry
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    Siren
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    You have 14 days I think post sub ending to post.

    Also you aren't missing a ton except some fun fights, and even then if your favorite job is ruined, that only lasts so long. I cringe at the idea of running roulettes and we aren't even into the patches. I'm actually just leveling crafters and then I'll probably go back to unsubbing until something interesting happens.
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    Last edited by Turtledeluxe; 07-18-2024 at 08:41 AM.

  7. #97
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    Shara Dei-ji
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    Ultros
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    Overly dramatic or not, I applaud anyone voting with their wallet instead of merely grumbling while they continue to pay up.

    I hope you find a game you do enjoy OP, there are lots of them out there!
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    Last edited by Boblawblah; 07-18-2024 at 09:11 AM.

  8. #98
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    IDontPetLalas's Avatar
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    Alinne Seamont
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    Goblin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    I've seen that study before, but there is a lot that it doesn't take into account. It doesn't go into the fact that games themselves have stopped asking gamers to think, to chase the "wider audience", nor does it go into the fact that anyone with a phone and Candy Crush can also consider themselves a gamer.
    From the analysis details, it doesn't look like there were many factors that were considered. There was gender, demographic distribution and platform, however the demographics were extremely narrow "The mean age is 24.5, with a standard deviation of 7.33".

    So the authors can tell how many were on PC, for example, but there's no indication of how many were on, for example, an MMORPG, as opposed to a solo game. Nor does it clearly factor in the considerable number of gamers that are older than around 30 years old. You may find this interesting https://headphonesaddict.com/pc-gaming-statistics/
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  9. #99
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 99
    Quote Originally Posted by ty_taurus View Post
    Hello, all.

    My sub ends tomorrow, so I believe this will be my last message for a while--maybe until 8.0. I have not touched a single minute of Dawntrail's story, its dungeons, or its content. Yet it's not because I'm burnt out of FFXIV. On the contrary, I have a very strong urge to play through Dawntrail's content, but what I have absolutely no drive to do whatsoever is put up with Endwalker job design any longer. It's a weird feeling, having both a constant urge to want to play the game and yet dreading the idea of actually playing the game. I want to explore the Story. I refuse to put up with Dosis spam. I want to try Arcadion. I am burnt out of DPS jobs. I want to see the upcoming field operations. I have no interest in trying tank jobs. I feel torn to say the least.

    I'll get to the point. I love FFXIV, but I hate Endwalker PVE job design. I would play through the story as PVP Sage if I could, but I can't, and there's not a single PVE job that I want to touch with a 10 foot pole. Yoshi P, if you truly want FFXIV to be a game for everyone, do better.

    Because this ongoing hyper simplified job design has alienated not just me, but many others who have also resigned and left the game. There has to be a better middle ground that's still approachable but doesn't exclude the players who want to engage with job design. Don't wait for 8.0 to make changes. Just waiting for 8.0 to address these issues is cutting corners when there are things you could do now to make job design more enjoyable without sweeping reworks.

    Make healers more enjoyable now. Leave Viper alone for the players who enjoy its complexity. Restore nonstandard gameplay aspects to Black Mage and other jobs as well. There is a healthy middle ground you can achieve with job design, and this is clearly not it. Goodbye for now everyone, I hope all of you are able to find enjoyment in the jobs even if I cannot and enjoy what Dawntrail has in store. I sincerely hope I can return sooner rather than later.
    I'm sorry to see you go, ty_taurus. May you find a game with the PvE job design you desire. Peace!
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  10. #100
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    Payne Leonhart
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    Jenova
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Everything they do pushes all the old players away, so they can bring in new players who have no idea about the past, who wont complain cuz they dont know anything or care about anything unless its bright and colorful and flashy and glittery and such wao
    youre over 25? get out - square enix
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