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    Quote Originally Posted by Gortys View Post
    Except the outcry was because there was not this option for people. Nobody was forced to do these zones then and you will not be forced to do this new version.
    Except this is not true - Eurkea was the only way to get your relic weapon in SB, and you had to progress through Bozja for the same in ShB. So, yes, you were forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    Except this is not true - Eurkea was the only way to get your relic weapon in SB, and you had to progress through Bozja for the same in ShB. So, yes, you were forced.
    Relics arent required content
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Eureka and Bozja were great, the EW relic was exceedingly boring/trivial to get, and the lack of an exploratory zone was my absolute least favorite thing about EW.

    There are dozens of weapon glams added each expansion, OP. If you don't want to jump into actually fun and engaging content to get one, maybe look into one of the remaining dozens.
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    Please don't bring back content X that others may like cause I personally hate it and if I hate it nobody else should get this content.

    Very selfish take.
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    Speak for yourself OP. Eureka and Bozja was the most fun I have had in this game. Criterion was boring because it was small party content. 24 man raids this past expansion was a snoozefest. Eureka and Bozja are the only pieces of content outside of fates on an expansion launch that actually give you that MMO experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caitlyn View Post
    [...]Please... dont. I hate Eureka and Bozja. Nothing in there worked. The whole concept of Bozja/Eureka is horrible. People just played it because of the relic weapons. But it was not fun. You can do nothing except waiting or following the FATE-train.
    Fun is subjective. I find this fun and you cannot get these by just "waiting or following the FATE train" as you've described:



    I love procuring resources and making profits out of them. I love helping my friendos and newcomers alike to play the content together. I love devising smart ways of using LAs to be stupid powerful that's completely contained within these zones and totally not affecting the rest of the game. I love helping people to grow a liking to the content from a place where they used to hate the content just because surprises surprises, playing with a friend in an MMO can be great.

    You don't find them fun? Again, that's fair. You however, got 69696969 other contents to play other than the optional Eureka & Bozja plus the ones we're getting in 7.25. Do some players interact with the content only for relic? For sure. I, for one, was initially one of those players. But a playerbase is NOT a hivemind and I'm certainly not one of them at this point - you don't speak for myself and other of the similar mind.
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Relics arent required content
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LucienFaust View Post
    You want to get rid of the only content that only feels like a true MMO? You must be a solo player because doing Bozja/eureka was the only time we're the game feels how it should be. Dangerous world mobs, teamwork require. Real raids that require massive amounts of teamwork.
    This is also a very good point. I personally don't mess with Bozja, but I do occasionally take part in Eureka/BA shenanigans to this day thanks to the community that has been built up and still maintained since SB. I get not wanting to join a community just for content, but Bozja and Eureka thrives primarily from their respective communities much like the hunt and treasure communities, and that's the kind of environment a huge MMO like FF14 should be striving to create and nourish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
    That's correct. Log off if you're not having fun with what's there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
    There are alternative ways to get stronger weapons, the tomestone being one of them, savage being another and crafted being a third
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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