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    Quote Originally Posted by Gortys View Post
    Except the outcry was because there was not this option for people. Nobody was forced to do these zones then and you will not be forced to do this new version.
    Except this is not true - Eurkea was the only way to get your relic weapon in SB, and you had to progress through Bozja for the same in ShB. So, yes, you were forced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    Except this is not true - Eurkea was the only way to get your relic weapon in SB, and you had to progress through Bozja for the same in ShB. So, yes, you were forced.
    Relics arent required content
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Relics arent required content
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
    That's correct. Log off if you're not having fun with what's there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
    There are alternative ways to get stronger weapons, the tomestone being one of them, savage being another and crafted being a third
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
    You don't, do you?
    All you have to do to continue the main game is to meet the item level for dungeons/trials. Which you will never need to do a relic for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TsubameMikage View Post
    By that logic, you never need to upgrade your gear at all once you end the expansion, since those aren't required either - right?
    There are other alternatives to relic weapons. Hell, in Shadowbringers, the tomestone weapon was better than the relic up until the very end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreadCrow View Post
    There are other alternatives to relic weapons. Hell, in Shadowbringers, the tomestone weapon was better than the relic up until the very end.
    the alternative to Relic weapons are weapon drops from savage raids or atleast thats how it was back in the days,
    relic weapons were for people playing causally and just want to grind for their weapon,
    while raiders would get it by doing hard content like savage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Relics arent required content
    They aren't but relics were content before they were gated behind Field Operations, not wanting the content you like to be gated behind content you don't like is a normal response.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VerdeLuck View Post
    They aren't but relics were content before they were gated behind Field Operations, not wanting the content you like to be gated behind content you don't like is a normal response.
    Even in ARR and HW content you had to do content you might not have liked. Intense fate grinding with low drop %, light farming through spamming raids and dungeons, hunting overworld mobs, hunting specific fates, grinding levequests, grinding out beast tribes, etc.

    So using ARR and HW as examples against Field Operations is a rather poor arguement. They were just as much effort (if not more of a chore) as the SB and ShB relics.
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