Please, dont bring Bojza back!

[Vejj]

From my view: Ill appreciate to farm stupidly dungeons for my daily agenda instead of get forced into a instanced areal, with must have fate trains and follow it stupidly from Point A to B.


Neither of those 2 variants are really fun but the dungeon is something that you can combine with daily business. Square already proved it that you can get a Relic Weapon very well without Eureka and Bozja. See ARR and Heavensward.

[Papayatar]

I liked Bozja, didn’t like Eureka, I don’t mind grinding stuff, weekly/daily grind is fine for me imo. But I’d honestly prefer relic stuff not tied to Eureka/Bozja content. Or just have more alternate routes to fully do the weapon without it. So you can do one or the other or both. I think Bozja did a little bit of that? But I did it at launch and with all the group content so IDK the extent of the split/alternate grind.

Manderville relic was fine until it got tied to poetics, but if you want all the weapons that’s the easiest one.

[shigaisen]

They aren't but relics were content before they were gated behind Field Operations, not wanting the content you like to be gated behind content you don't like is a normal response.

Sure, but it's also kinda immature to want to deny others optional content and rewards because you may not like the optional content.

I hate doing treasure maps, yet I don't go to forums requesting no further additions to maps. I just let the people who do enjoy maps and the rewards be while I do something else.

[GrizzlyTank]

They are ok. But square needs to make improvements to their fate system. Make it more dynamic like in GW2

[koko-on-da-forumz]

Eureka was the only FF14 content that actually made me WANT to be doing 3-4 am fates, grinds, and runs because of the fun I was having with it. The crazy groups you got in! The wacky people you met while grinding! The community and comradery! To this day, I STILL remember some of the people I met in Eureka when it was new, they left THAT much of an impression. It was a WONDERFUL feeling and something that is sooooo missing in normal FF14 gameplay.

Legitimately, the only friends I still have in FFXIV are the people I met in Eureka in Stormblood.

And most of the people who've blacklisted me are people I've met in Eureka in Endwalker!

It's such a wonderful, free, social experience.

[VerdeLuck]

I liked Bozja, didn’t like Eureka, I don’t mind grinding stuff, weekly/daily grind is fine for me imo. But I’d honestly prefer relic stuff not tied to Eureka/Bozja content. Or just have more alternate routes to fully do the weapon without it. So you can do one or the other or both. I think Bozja did a little bit of that? But I did it at launch and with all the group content so IDK the extent of the split/alternate grind.

Manderville relic was fine until it got tied to poetics, but if you want all the weapons that’s the easiest one.

The thing I think people forget about the Manderville grind is it's very similar to the HW grind, they just consolidated all the items like sand into just one purchase. That tome grind is still 90% poetics dumping to buy items.
I think people misunderstand what people say, it's not that you CAN do it in the FO zone, it's that you MUST do it in the FO zone and must progress that zone to unlock the next steps. Also as mentioned the Timeworn step in Shadowbringers where the Bozja version of the step is way easier than outside by a massive margin. I did it entirely in POTD solo and it was weeks before I got enough RNG drops for it compared to a guaranteed drop in Bozja.
Were they to make it so that you could entirely progress inside or outside the zone and it was comparable in completion time and effort then I think people wouldn't be upset about it. However I think some FO players would be upset that less people would play their zones due to not being forced to enter the zone for the rewards.

[Fortecael]

Bozja and Eureka are the best content this game ever had and it's criminal that EW didn't have any. I'm unsubscribed and if I don't see Eureka3 by next year I'm not coming back.

[koko-on-da-forumz]

However I think some FO players would be upset that less people would play their zones due to not being forced to enter the zone for the rewards.

Literally no one cares, this is how Bozja works.

[VerdeLuck]

Literally no one cares, this is how Bozja works.

It is not how Bozja works, you need to complete the entire story to unlock the full relic steps. Someone who never sets foot in Bozja will at best get 2-3 steps and then will be unable to progress it until they unlock and complete Delibrum.

[Post]

Bozja owned.

Didn't care about relics, only got a few because I got sick of farming extremes for weapons mid StB when they made those fights easier and yet more tedious with long, boring transitions.

But Bozja's strength is its content. Tougher than normal raids generally and the lost action systems allowed you to approach it in ways that FFXIV in general doesn't let you do stuff. It's an environment where it was fun and OK to break things. So, a little bit of an RPG in my MMORPG. And raid trash encounters that challenged us to have a need for 24 people other than 'boss has enough health for 24 people'.

Like all content, once you do it there's less reason to return, but damn it it wasn't fun, even if purely you didn't know exactly what was coming down the pipeline next like with the normal, extreme, alliance and savage patch content.