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    Player Mawlzy's Avatar
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    Jessa Marko
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    Adamantoise
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    Machinist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by DolphinsFan View Post
    90% of the hostility in the pvp community is a response to the amount of toxicity directed at them from people who don't make a serious effort to learn, and who join discords to skim for gotcha moments and start arguments rather than try to engage in productive conversation.
    Fins, I've played many matches with you. You're amusing in chat and a strong player. I'd like to suggest a different reason for the origin of the hostility.

    In FL at the moment, we have two groups who are serious about the mode, but who have completely different goals. And these goals clash massively. Olivia and her minions are the archetype of the first group. They place wins above everything else, and consequently play meta stacks. The second serious group is comprised of solo players who work hard on getting better, but who emphasize enjoyable matches above wins. For them, being ordered around is not enjoyable. The gameplay that a meta stack produces is not enjoyable.

    Setting aside the players who don't care at all, these two groups of serious players get dumped in the same matches where their playstyles are completely at odds with each other. The key to greatly reducing the current hostility is by removing that clash of styles through queue separation.
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    saucyshortcake's Avatar
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    Kenzeil Zolas
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Conjurer Lv 30
    Quote Originally Posted by Mawlzy View Post
    Fins, I've played many matches with you. You're amusing in chat and a strong player. I'd like to suggest a different reason for the origin of the hostility.

    In FL at the moment, we have two groups who are serious about the mode, but who have completely different goals. And these goals clash massively. Olivia and her minions are the archetype of the first group. They place wins above everything else, and consequently play meta stacks. The second serious group is comprised of solo players who work hard on getting better, but who emphasize enjoyable matches above wins. For them, being ordered around is not enjoyable. The gameplay that a meta stack produces is not enjoyable.

    Setting aside the players who don't care at all, these two groups of serious players get dumped in the same matches where their playstyles are completely at odds with each other. The key to greatly reducing the current hostility is by removing that clash of styles through queue separation.
    the reason people like olivia stick to frontlines is because anytime he tries any other pvp mode we swiftly remind him why he should stick to only pvp'ing once every 3 days on shatter. and we're sorry you have to deal with him.
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    OliviaLugria's Avatar
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    Olivia Lugria
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    Sargatanas
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by saucyshortcake View Post
    the reason people like olivia stick to frontlines is because anytime he tries any other pvp mode we swiftly remind him why he should stick to only pvp'ing once every 3 days on shatter. and we're sorry you have to deal with him.
    lol what? It definitely doesn't have anything to do with a consistent streaming schedule, making time for other content or games, or playing her favorite map. I can go command the other maps just as well, and if you're talking about CC (already gotten top 100), so I guess that leaves RW?

    Who even are you?
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    Last edited by OliviaLugria; 07-14-2024 at 02:27 PM.
    I just want some competent job design along with a mild difficulty curve. Asking for more seems to much right now.

    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE Discord: https://discord.gg/BKF6YSUDXc
    Frontlines Guide: https://oliguide.carrd.co/

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    saucyshortcake's Avatar
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    Kenzeil Zolas
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    Conjurer Lv 30
    yeah how fortunate it lines up with only playing the game on shatter days.

    we get it, grats you can feel good about pub stomping randoms doing an exp queue while you tryhard spam macros for a full game on a poorly designed map. maybe next you can break into an elementary school and pwn everyone in a fist fight. you'll make top 100(lol) there too i'm sure.
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    Jesuis Charliekirk
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    Halicarnassus
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    Viper Lv 100
    lmfao, that was funny! champion!
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