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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    I sympathize with everyone upset. Stuff like this is par for the course with any MMO or online-only game.

    At the end of the day, it doesn't matter for what or why they take the game down. It's their product and they can do with it what they want. They could just shut the game down indefinitely on a whim if they wanted to and we'd just have to deal with it.

    So, whatever your grievances are you're free to voice them but don't expect much of anything to come of it aside from your own stress.
    While you are correct, this is the worst take possible. People like you would have had FF14 DoA. Remember it was people that complained about the game when it launched that got the game essentially remade and the developers issuing an apology as to why the game sucked. If everyone took the stance of "it's their game, they can do as they want" you wouldn't be posting about FF14 today because it wouldn't be a game at this point. It took the people complaining to make that change. White knighting for the company doesn't help any more than people complaining.
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    Hehe, imagine the timing if you were one of those people waiting on a certain boss fate in the last few hours of its window to finally pop
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    Quote Originally Posted by CassieCoffee View Post
    While you are correct, this is the worst take possible. People like you would have had FF14 DoA. Remember it was people that complained about the game when it launched that got the game essentially remade and the developers issuing an apology as to why the game sucked. If everyone took the stance of "it's their game, they can do as they want" you wouldn't be posting about FF14 today because it wouldn't be a game at this point. It took the people complaining to make that change. White knighting for the company doesn't help any more than people complaining.
    Product quality and Maintenace are 2 entirely separate issues. I'm all for providing feedback and holding game developers accountable.

    Throwing a hissy fit and demanding compensation for what is a minor inconvenience for the sake of fixing game breaking issues isn't justifiable. My approach is direct and probably a little insensitive sure, but we could also just not have the game at all like the xbox players who had to suffer being unable to access a product they purchased just like everyone else.

    It's not white knighting just because it's not all rainbows and sunshine. Everyone who's been around in XIV for a while knows that the dev team is pretty good about trying to make Maintenace as little of a disruption for as many folks as possible whenever they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CassieCoffee View Post
    While you are correct, this is the worst take possible. People like you would have had FF14 DoA. Remember it was people that complained about the game when it launched that got the game essentially remade and the developers issuing an apology as to why the game sucked. If everyone took the stance of "it's their game, they can do as they want" you wouldn't be posting about FF14 today because it wouldn't be a game at this point. It took the people complaining to make that change. White knighting for the company doesn't help any more than people complaining.
    Yeah, white knights can kill games, like tons of them. Those who have been contributing nothing but shotting down every possible suggestion, critiques, and feedbacks since day one. They were the reason why Magic Legends died, until the last day the game still havent fixed the glaring issues because of these fools
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    I'd be less mad if i had already done my roulettes, It's timed in a way that reset will hit before I can even log in. It is what it is I guess.

    I do find it odd how most games don't need long maintence periods to update the game, but ff14 does, Don't know if it's a mmo thing but no other live service game I played has generally had such downtime.
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    Given that it's saturday evening over in japan they are probably enjoying performing this maintenance even less that we do, so they must have a very good reason.

    Something like a serious security issue, of fixing a serious exploit, or a serious bug that could compromise the database integrity, or something like that.
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    RIP Viper 28/06/2024 - 04/07/2024. It was a fun almost one week

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    Hehe, imagine the timing if you were one of those people waiting on a certain boss fate in the last few hours of its window to finally pop
    I feel your pain, RIP all of yesterday lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rithy255 View Post
    I'd be less mad if i had already done my roulettes, It's timed in a way that reset will hit before I can even log in. It is what it is I guess.

    I do find it odd how most games don't need long maintence periods to update the game, but ff14 does, Don't know if it's a mmo thing but no other live service game I played has generally had such downtime.
    Most of their maintenance times end a little early, so most of the time I think it's just them making sure they enough time to do everything. Better to plan for longer than you think incase stuff goes down the crapper mid-way through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SomeRandomHuman View Post
    Product quality and Maintenace are 2 entirely separate issues. I'm all for providing feedback and holding game developers accountable.

    Throwing a hissy fit and demanding compensation for what is a minor inconvenience for the sake of fixing game breaking issues isn't justifiable. My approach is direct and probably a little insensitive sure, but we could also just not have the game at all like the xbox players who had to suffer being unable to access a product they purchased just like everyone else.

    It's not white knighting just because it's not all rainbows and sunshine. Everyone who's been around in XIV for a while knows that the dev team is pretty good about trying to make Maintenace as little of a disruption for as many folks as possible whenever they can.
    Problems are problems, how they are handled is up for criticism always. This was handled poorly. As a company you don't tell the masses to step aside for the 1% (if that). That's bad business and to call them on it isn't wrong it's actually helpful. That they need four hours on a weekend to fix a problem people are saying has been an issue for going on two weeks now is also an issue. Part of that, I'm sure, if the fact they go in bed with Microsoft to start. Every update has a massive scrutiny it has to go through before MS will allow it. That causes delays that normally wouldn't be needed, to get in bed with MS and now have to cater to 1% of the player base that's locked behind them was a bad choice. Again, all problems, choices and decisions are worthy of criticism.
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    The emergency maintenance timing is an inconvenience to many, but, what's far more important here is that they are showing their commitment to the game and Xbox platform. I'm happy to see the fixes being rolled out as soon as they possibly could. It would feel selfish to get upset over it
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