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    I want to point out with what love and precision they recreated the stones and outfits, almost pixel by pixel.

    it's even a little envious that my character has lips, and not this stone instead of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    I want to point out with what love and precision they recreated the stones and outfits, almost pixel by pixel.

    it's even a little envious that my character has lips, and not this stone instead of them.
    I'm going to point out with the woven cloth that the dark seam is much further in on the light cloth to the right, and if a change that drastic had happened to our WoL faces, you'd be raising the rafters over it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    I'm going to point out with the woven cloth that the dark seam is much further in on the light cloth to the right, and if a change that drastic had happened to our WoL faces, you'd be raising the rafters over it.
    It can be a little confusing because the slider is the same picture. Here is a more visual comparison.
    yea

    yes


    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    if a change that drastic had happened to our WoL faces, you'd be raising the rafters over it.
    I'll make it easier for you, all my messages are about dissatisfaction with this update, so I'm already doing it.

    And yes, they have already done that, they have so significantly changed, for example, my lips.



    I'm not really asking you if they're similar or not, in your opinion. The other day, I just asked for the most innocent and independent view from the outside. A little boy. To which he replied to me. Auntie, here she is joyful and smiling, and here she is sad and not smiling. And even ignoring the fact that they have a completely different shape.
    For me, this is the surest indicator that something is wrong. And I just ignore preconceived opinions like that
    Quote Originally Posted by Plushy View Post
    Going to be honest, those lips look so incredibly similar that it's not really worth changing imo...
    now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    I'll make it easier for you, all my messages are about dissatisfaction with this update, so I'm already doing it.
    Very aware. Which is why I thought it strange that you described something that is different in such glowing terms, while describing something else that is different with such dissatisfaction.

    No statement about your dissatisfaction--THAT I understand. It was the glowing description of something else which was clearly different that made me scratch my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Astronis View Post
    Very aware. Which is why I thought it strange that you described something that is different in such glowing terms, while describing something else that is different with such dissatisfaction.

    No statement about your dissatisfaction--THAT I understand. It was the glowing description of something else which was clearly different that made me scratch my head.
    The fun part is that we can also be very dissatisfied with the change to the shape of our characters faces and be excited for and appreciate the other changes. It isn't mutually exclusive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irishfae View Post
    The fun part is that we can also be very dissatisfied with the change to the shape of our characters faces and be excited for and appreciate the other changes. It isn't mutually exclusive.
    Yeah for sure. I haven't been growing attached to and staring at the couch fabric for 5 years in cut scenes and gpose so I don't notice or care much about how they update it. If plants and stones look good they look good. My own characters face is a different story. Faces didn't get the attention to detail they should have imo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheapshot View Post
    Yeah for sure. I haven't been growing attached to and staring at the couch fabric for 5 years in cut scenes and gpose so I don't notice or care much about how they update it. If plants and stones look good they look good. My own characters face is a different story. Faces didn't get the attention to detail they should have imo.
    Low Poly Grapes enters the chat.


    Just saying, sometimes the background team drops the ball really hard, in both directions.


    I would much rather have the better graphical fidelity, but I remember 1.0 and I remember the 5-10fps some places of the game would have, the lack of the hardware mouse cursor, the much nicer looking models... oh wait.

    Actual screenshot from 2010:


    Sometimes you can go "yeah, that looked better" and then turn around and realize how empty the area is because of it. Because that is what a lot of 1.0, copy-paste topology to either save memory or abject laziness. "PS3" limitations also meant a lot of creative reuse.

    What I hope is that most of the "ARR" and HW areas get revamped with higher quality textures, and also various places where they dropped the ball like Hein's outfit stops being a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LlymlaenGreene View Post
    I want to point out with what love and precision they recreated the stones and outfits, almost pixel by pixel.

    it's even a little envious that my character has lips, and not this stone instead of them.

    This is because the Environment team members are gurus and the character team is... questionable (they've always been the weakest link of XIV).
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