[DEV] Remove full party bonus to increase difficulty

[Alerith]

In theory though, shouldn't the battles be balanced around NOT having the full party bonus?

If the battles are balanced around it, then it's not a bonus, it's just...average. A bonus in this case would imply that you gain something from having a full party.

Is the "bonus" for having a full party the +10% edge the mob was supposed to have over you? It just seems kinda pointless/redundant if the encounters were designed with the bonus in mind.

[Kiroh]

In theory though, shouldn't the battles be balanced around NOT having the full party bonus?

If the battles are balanced around it, then it's not a bonus, it's just...average. A bonus in this case would imply that you gain something from having a full party.

Is the "bonus" for having a full party the +10% edge the mob was supposed to have over you? It just seems kinda pointless/redundant if the encounters were designed with the bonus in mind.

SE has a habit of doing redundant things, and being nonsensical in they way they "balance" their MMO content. Either every battle in this game is geared around having the full party bonus, or SE REALLY went overboard on their accuracy nerf.

(I'm frankly shocked my character can walk 5 feet without slamming his face into the nearest wall as bad as his accuracy is.)

[Bustercucumbers]

It's not the idea itself, it's just how he put it.

I actually agree that full PT bonus should be toned down. It's a bit ridicolous that with full PT Acc bonus I never miss a single arrow on my BRD and I don't have a single acc bonus on me (in fact I'm using the songbow which reduces acc).

But if this were to be done I wouldn't ask for it to "increase difficulty", it's just a part of balancing that should always be going on, not suddenly done because someone wants the game to be harder. It's funny because if I recall PT bonus was supposed to be implemented to push people into partying to level up and get the incentives, not necessarily for endgame content where the EXP bonus does them no good.

Also stating that the game is "for casuals" doesn't really help him prove a point.

Totally agree. I honestly wouldn't mind if the party bonus left the game. The acc bonus is crazy. If it was gone, people would want bards more often, as well as, proper acc gear and food. Right now it just feels like everyone is just winging it whenever they go do an event as a group.

[Jynx]

You can be filled with all the self-righteous indignation you want, I still have yet to hear a single objectively positive thing that would come from removing this bonus from the game.

Wrong you just haven't heard a single thing that you want to hear about it.

I don't goad my accomplishments over others, I just enjoy their being a challenge to them.

[Teuciont]

In theory though, shouldn't the battles be balanced around NOT having the full party bonus?

If the battles are balanced around it, then it's not a bonus, it's just...average. A bonus in this case would imply that you gain something from having a full party.

Is the "bonus" for having a full party the +10% edge the mob was supposed to have over you? It just seems kinda pointless/redundant if the encounters were designed with the bonus in mind.

This. It's a pointless bonus and I really don't understand why it's in the game. I guess the question is, and it's been asked, do they balance dungeon/primal content around the bonus or not?

[Dragon]

Totally agree. I honestly wouldn't mind if the party bonus left the game. The acc bonus is crazy. If it was gone, people would want bards more often, as well as, proper acc gear and food. Right now it just feels like everyone is just winging it whenever they go do an event as a group.

OR they could buff enemy stats to counter it since the buff is here in the first place to encourage partying rather than soloing.

[Jynx]

I wish they would bring back bonus exp for different types of monsters, I miss when Efts and Beastmen would give a bit more bang for the difficulty.

...but now beastment and Efts are as strong as marmots!

[Rokien]

Jig is up Gabbagabba is my second account, joke on you guys



jk ^.^

[Bustercucumbers]

OR they could buff enemy stats to counter it since the buff is here in the first place to encourage partying rather than soloing.

Yeah that could work too. Right now things are just so easy. If it wasn't for the sluggish servers, everyone would cruise control through this game like ffxiii-2.