[DEV] Remove full party bonus to increase difficulty

[Kiroh]

I like the bonus but I don't. I think they could turn the bonus into something else, idk, but I want ACC to play a bigger roll.
Maybe make food last longer? idk.....


I also still want to say "FULL PARTY" whenever I get into a full party, if they keep that I'll be happy.

If you want ACC to play a bigger role, solo on MNK for a while and let me know how 40% ACC feels for you.

SE has already said, numerous times that parties are working the way they intend them to and that food isn't meant to be a big bonus.

I don't understand how people can possibly complain about this bonus. For the last year and a half all I've seen is people begging, pleading, threatening, and offering sacrifices to convince the SE gods to add a bonus to parties to give people incentive to group up. They gave us incentive, and now you bitch because there's too much incentive to group?

(You people are the reason Yoshida is constantly getting sick and worn out.)

[Rokien]

If you want ACC to play a bigger role, solo on MNK for a while and let me know how 40% ACC feels for you.

SE has already said, numerous times that parties are working the way they intend them to and that food isn't meant to be a big bonus.

I don't understand how people can possibly complain about this bonus. For the last year and a half all I've seen is people begging, pleading, threatening, and offering sacrifices to convince the SE gods to add a bonus to parties to give people incentive to group up. They gave us incentive, and now you bitch because there's too much incentive to group?

(You people are the reason Yoshida is constantly getting sick and worn out.)

When did I complain about it?

[Kiroh]

When did I complain about it?

I like the bonus but I don't. I think they could turn the bonus into something else, idk, but I want ACC to play a bigger roll.

That being said, when I used 'people' I mean it literally to refer to everyone in the thread who was arguing about the bonus and in a broader sense, all the people who feel the need to argue and complain about every single nice thing the dev team decides to add to the game. It's amazing to me that people still think time consuming, repetitive, tedious work is 'challenging'. I don't understand why being rewarded is considered a bad thing by certain people on this forum...

[Jynx]

It's amazing to me that people still think...

You can't imagine that people have fun in a way that is different than the way you have fun?

You could make a whole topic on that subject and find that not everyone thinks what you find fun is fun, and you may think some people are insane with what they think is fun. I for one am glad that people are voicing their opinion on any and all subjects of the games development.

We have to believe the Dev team don't take our word as god (If they did the game is doomed) and use our feedback to design around the game they have envisioned. I'm sorry if you think that X-Y-Z feature is awesome because it makes things easier/quicker/convient to you.

I on the other hand may feel it makes the game less engaging / have less lasting appeal / cheapen my sense of achievment. It's the wonderous things about having a board where we discuss things about the games direction. It's when people start pretending that they are right and everyone else is wrong is when it becomes a issue.

Everyone is here to voice their opinion on the game, although it seems many people are of the opinion that people shouldn't have a opinion and if they do they shouldn't take about it.

Long story short.

"It's amazing to me that people still think ____"

Well it's amazing to me that you didn't think that people don't all agree with you.

No insult directed at you but please don't assume that because you find something tedious that everyone else does. Everyone here is grown up enough to speak for themselves, don't try and paint groups of people in broad strokes you. If you still don't understand you never will but I'll say it again for clarity.

What you think is fun, isn't fun for everyone. What you think isn't fun may be fun to others.

*edit*

Maybe it's just too late for me and I'm being ranty...let me know if that's not what you meant and I'll edit this accordingly.

[KiriA500]

while i understand that this game is aimed towards casuals

Stopped reading there. This mentality is what makes me ashamed to play video games.

[FerFox]

by removing the bonus they would have to rework all the mobs in the game, there hp, evasion and all stats will b so high u wont b able to kill them, imagine a HNM u cant hit, where would the fun in that be?

[Roaran]

The encounters are balanced with there being a full party buff. Simply removing the buff does not mean more difficult battles. Future encounters would be balanced with there not being a full party buff. The result is a zero net change in difficulty.

The ONLY thing that determines difficulty, is the developers arbitrary choice of mechanics and gameplay elements incorporated into a specific encounter.

[Halvaard_Vidan]

I'm all for making fights a bit longer, as exp fights are way too short, rate of exp is fine.

Removing full and light party bonuses would technically make fights longer and a bit harder but I don't think it's the way to go because as a system it's a nice reward for filling you party.

[indira]

remove bonus increase darklight drops.

[Dubont]

No. FFXI was gear based, but it worked. In FFXIV, the idea you are proposing will be materia based. Having good materia gear doesn't revolve around being able to kill x enemy y amount of times and being good at the game. No. Having good materia gear revolves around you A) Having a lot of money and B) having high craft classes or being able to pay A LOT for people to meld it for you.

Essentially, the idea you are proposing is an unnecessary time sink that will just lead to more elitism (as if we don't have enough of that already) and I for one do not approve of your idea.