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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    That's a valid point, but I can ask the same what's the point of cars if we have trains/planes? But the issue goes way deeper than just "ultimate cleared without healers". Refer to this thread for a summary of healer issues.
    Just so I'm not misunderstanding your point in reference to my final "food for thought" comment, is your analogy that healers are cars in this scenario and others are trains/planes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BismarckBug View Post
    Just so I'm not misunderstanding your point in reference to my final "food for thought" comment, is your analogy that healers are cars in this scenario and others are trains/planes?
    How is using Usain Bolt and a car as an analogy better? Are you saying healers are Usain Bolt but every other role is a car because they're faster? I fail to understand that. If you have nothing constructive to say, at least have the decency to read the thread I linked earlier so you might actually have an understanding what's going on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    How is using Usain Bolt and a car as an analogy better? Are you saying healers are Usain Bolt but every other role is a car because they're faster? I fail to understand that. If you have nothing constructive to say, at least have the decency to read the thread I linked earlier so you might actually have an understanding what's going on.
    I just asked you to elaborate on what you meant lol. Why are you lashing out? I'm well-aware of the complaints healers have with the game and the general dissatisfaction, but I don't agree with it myself. My analogy was related to TOP and solo dungeon where "What's the point of healer if you can do it in this niche situation?" equates to "What's the point of using a car if Usain Bolt can run at 40km/h?"

    Sort your attitude out, you not wanting to listen to my opinions does not mean I have nothing constructive to say. I've done every form of content and I am satisfied with the state of healing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BismarckBug View Post
    I just asked you to elaborate on what you meant lol. Why are you lashing out? I'm well-aware of the complaints healers have with the game and the general dissatisfaction, but I don't agree with it myself. My analogy was related to TOP and solo dungeon where "What's the point of healer if you can do it in this niche situation?" equates to "What's the point of using a car if Usain Bolt can run at 40km/h?"

    Sort your attitude out, you not wanting to listen to my opinions does not mean I have nothing constructive to say. I've done every form of content and I am satisfied with the state of healing.
    Lashing out? If you can provide proof of me "lashing out" I'd gladly sort that out, but your analogy was completely absurd, and I have already mentioned the issue goes far deeper than just "ultimates cleared without healers".

    If you're satisfied with the current state of healers, I don't think this thread is for you, unless of course you're here to provide some high class trolling like some others do here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    Lashing out? If you can provide proof of me "lashing out" I'd gladly sort that out, but your analogy was completely absurd, and I have already mentioned the issue goes far deeper than just "ultimates cleared without healers".

    If you're satisfied with the current state of healers, I don't think this thread is for you, unless of course you're here to provide some high class trolling like some others do here.
    "Change this role, we're boycotting!" If you want an echo chamber then please let us know in the very beginning. I truly don't want my role changed because people who have never done the hardest content want to change the job for everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BismarckBug View Post
    "Change this role, we're boycotting!" If you want an echo chamber then please let us know in the very beginning. I truly don't want my role changed because people who have never done the hardest content want to change the job for everyone.
    What are you talking about? I have never mentioned the necessity to change the role. Are you sure you're not confusing me with someone else? lol

    Again, refer to the thread I linked earlier. If you're happy with the current state of healers -- great! No one is forcing you to protest or join the bandwagon, this thread is simply not for you. You'll be happy with faster queues for DF? Great! No one is telling you to stop. People are free to do as they wish, but you still haven't provided me with factual proof of me lashing out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rehayem View Post
    but you still haven't provided me with factual proof of me lashing out.
    I asked you to elaborate on something I might not have understood correctly and your response was "How was your analogy any better?" and claiming I have nothing constructive to say. Do you seriously see that as a calm, measured response? I won't engage with you any further, I can't be bothered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BismarckBug View Post
    "Change this role, we're boycotting!" If you want an echo chamber then please let us know in the very beginning. I truly don't want my role changed because people who have never done the hardest content want to change the job for everyone.
    Do I really have to play ultimates so I am allowed to criticise the 1-1-1-1-(dot)-1-1-1-1 button spam in my expert roulettes?
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Do I really have to play ultimates so I am allowed to criticise the 1-1-1-1-(dot)-1-1-1-1 button spam in my expert roulettes?
    No, I'm going off by the original "manifesto" of this thread and I generally criticised the "Lack of threat level in nearly all forms of content."

    I can see how healer can be boring in (with your example) expert roulettes, but I also share the same opinion of pretty much every other job since it's all "wall to wall twice, kill boss, wall to wall twice, kill boss, wall to wall twice, kill final boss"
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    Do I really have to play ultimates so I am allowed to criticise the 1-1-1-1-(dot)-1-1-1-1 button spam in my expert roulettes?
    Clearly this is what YoshiP told us to do, no?
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