Dark Knight Megathread

[Rithy255]

Let’s be honest here. When I saw the job trailer what got me hyped the most was the fukking dash that drk and gnb got. The rest was sleeper. It’s still gonna be 123 until 1 and 2 minutes and you don’t even have to safe 50 blood gauge for shadow, now it’s a button you press on cooldown without any consequences, can’t wait for tbn to do the same. At least gnb has continuation combo every 30 seconds.

Wait you don't have to have 50 blood gauge for shadow?!? I didn't even notice this.

feels like they're just making gauges purposely a spender for one thing now.

[Absurdity]

Wait you don't have to have 50 blood gauge for shadow?!? I didn't even notice this.

feels like they're just making gauges purposely a spender for one thing now.

They had to make Dark Knight catch up to Warrior in how brainless it is after all.
Waiting for 8.0 where Delirium just gives you 4 free uses of Edge of Shadow so you all you ever need to think about is pressing that knock-off Inner Release button to get all your damage for free...you know, like Warrior.

[GoatOfWar]

They had to make Dark Knight catch up to Warrior in how brainless it is after all.
Waiting for 8.0 where Delirium just gives you 4 free uses of Edge of Shadow so you all you ever need to think about is pressing that knock-off Inner Release button to get all your damage for free...you know, like Warrior.

But hey, now there are 2 tanks you can teach a hamster to play instead of 1.
Queue times will be so much faster with all these hamsters picking up tank.

[Rithy255]

They had to make Dark Knight catch up to Warrior in how brainless it is after all.
Waiting for 8.0 where Delirium just gives you 4 free uses of Edge of Shadow so you all you ever need to think about is pressing that knock-off Inner Release button to get all your damage for free...you know, like Warrior.

It's honestly expected but I am still a little surprised was it really worth taking off???

What made "gauges" at least a little bit interesting was multiple spenders for different reasons, I actually felt like wars SHB gauge was fine with how Upheaval worked, also having it tied to gap closer made it so war had to consider there gauge a tiny bit more.

I just dont know why they're going into the direction of gauge = 1 spender. It seems silly.

[Absurdity]

It's honestly expected but I am still a little surprised was it really worth taking off???

What made "gauges" at least a little bit interesting was multiple spenders for different reasons, I actually felt like wars SHB gauge was fine with how Upheaval worked, also having it tied to gap closer made it so war had to consider there gauge a tiny bit more.

I just dont know why they're going into the direction of gauge = 1 spender. It seems silly.

I think Stormblood did a better job with WAR's gauge because Onslaught wasn't just a gap closer with damage, it had roughly the same potency per gauge as Fell Cleave which made it a real consideration in fights. Do I spend this gauge on Fell Cleave or do I spend it on a bunch of Onslaughts instead to save a GCD and maybe end my combo on Path/Eye before downtime?

But in general yes, having multiple abilities that tap into your gauge simply made more sense, it made you at least think about when to spend gauge on your main spender (in this case Fell Cleave) because you might not have enough when your smaller spenders come back up.

Now they might as well remove the gauge and just give you charges on a cooldown.

The more I learn about how DRK worked before ShB, the more I regret not discovering this game earlier.

I'm actually happy for the people who never knew how jobs played before ShB, they live in blissful ignorance of what we had and probably get more enjoyment out of the current game.

I wish I couldn't see the absolutely awful direction that XIV's gameplay has been heading in for two expansions now.

It's going in the same direction that made me quit WoW in Legion after 12 years, just harder and faster than WoW ever did.

[Kaixern]

I'm actually happy for the people who never knew how jobs played before ShB, they live in blissful ignorance of what we had and probably get more enjoyment out of the current game.

I wish I couldn't see the absolutely awful direction that XIV's gameplay has been heading in for two expansions now.

It's going in the same direction that made me quit WoW in Legion after 12 years, just harder and faster than WoW ever did.

I hate the fact that i have to agree so much with this
Sometime i wish i could completely forget the older iterations of Dark Knight

One random thing that i often recall was , for me at least, the fact that dungeons at the time were enjoyable when playing this class, especially in stormblood
And while i often prefered the heavensward version (maybe it was nostalgia goggles, or not, who knows), i really enjoyed going in dungeon (i know, dungeons are not raids or hard content so it doesn't count, sorry in advance) in stormblood with how the dark knight abilities and the mana/blood gauge interacted so well together.

[noumen0nn]

I'm actually happy for the people who never knew how jobs played before ShB, they live in blissful ignorance of what we had and probably get more enjoyment out of the current game.

I wish I couldn't see the absolutely awful direction that XIV's gameplay has been heading in for two expansions now.

It's going in the same direction that made me quit WoW in Legion after 12 years, just harder and faster than WoW ever did.

I hate the fact that i have to agree so much with this
Sometime i wish i could completely forget the older iterations of Dark Knight

One random thing that i often recall was , for me at least, the fact that dungeons at the time were enjoyable when playing this class, especially in stormblood
And while i often prefered the heavensward version (maybe it was nostalgia goggles, or not, who knows), i really enjoyed going in dungeon (i know, dungeons are not raids or hard content so it doesn't count, sorry in advance) in stormblood with how the dark knight abilities and the mana/blood gauge interacted so well together.

This is something I hear all the time from old DRK mains, and it reminds me of a complaint that I often hear in regards to job changes: It really doesn't feel like these decisions are being made by designers who are dedicated players of the job in question. Like, I've never met a StB DRK main who didn't LOVE Dark Arts, but I hear the reason they removed it was because it felt "spammy"? But I got the feeling that was kind of the point?

I feel the same way about what we saw in the trailer. They're making all these changes to reduce how busy the burst is- isn't that what half the fun of the job is currently? "DRK is too busy" is the kind of complaint I could only imagine someone who is new to the job making. Surely any avid DRK main on the dev team would agree. So who's in charge of these decisions?

[EusisLandale]

Like, I've never met a StB DRK main who didn't LOVE Dark Arts, but I hear the reason they removed it was because it felt "spammy"? But I got the feeling that was kind of the point?

The problem with old Dark Arts was that it was mindless spammy, not merely spammy. A bunch of our defensive abilities got stronger for it, but aside from Abyssal Drain and to an extent Dark Passenger, it was a waste to do so when the alternative is using it on something that gets +140 potency because encounters rarely if ever called for improving non damage abilities. And then all the devs took from that was not "give us a reason to Dark Arts our defenses" but "get rid of Dark Arts and just bake it in since that's all we do anyway".