Square obviously not listening to feedback

[Supersnow845]

It does often seem like people complain about SE not listening to feedback when specifically their request are not acted upon. It is also worth thinking about how much of the player base people complaining in these forums and on other platforms make up. If it's only a few hundred, or even thousand then is it worth acting on their advice to please them at the risk of alienating tens of thousands that are already happily playing without complaint. There is no guarantee that the changes suggested here or other places would enhance the experience for everyone playing, or even the majority of players. It's also worth remembering this is an international game, and I feel it's primary audience is the Japanese base and their feedback is what the team listens to the most which may or may not align with what we see in the NA boards. All that to say that small groups of friends and people on message boards that you interact with because you share similar opinions about the game do not translate into a majority of players.

If the feedback here is so unpopular with the wider playerbase then the damn community managers need to start coming out onto these forums and telling us that

Right now we are constantly told this is where to leave feedback, we just sit here screaming into a void while nothing appears to get acted on, if square wants to maintain our trust they can at least pretend to tell us where specific feedback is coming from

[vetch]

If the feedback here is so unpopular with the wider playerbase then the damn community managers need to start coming out onto these forums and telling us that

Right now we are constantly told this is where to leave feedback, we just sit here screaming into a void while nothing appears to get acted on, if square wants to maintain our trust they can at least pretend to tell us where specific feedback is coming from

Note also the unsubstantiated assumption that the people playing without posting are happy, rather than perhaps being bored with the game but not caring enough or cognizant enough of the reasons to speak up about it.

Most unhappy people just put up with it until they can't anymore and then take off. Any company as big as Square should know this, because if 'I'm quitting FF14' ever picks up momentum then the network effects will kill the game.

[Tsurayu]

Note also the unsubstantiated assumption that the people playing without posting are happy, rather than perhaps being bored with the game but not caring enough or cognizant enough of the reasons to speak up about it.

Most unhappy people just put up with it until they can't anymore and then take off. Any company as big as Square should know this, because if 'I'm quitting FF14' ever picks up momentum then the network effects will kill the game.

I find quite the opposite to be true.

Most people who are pleased, or otherwise indifferent, with something rarely feel the need to leave feedback. It's almost exclusively the domain of people who have a bone to pick - that's not an exclusive concept to this game. It's unhappy people who feel the need to shout from the rooftops while those who are enjoying or just coasting along that often remain quiet.

I wish the people who say and threaten they are going to quit actually do. And I don't even mean that in a malicious way, not entirely anyway. If the game makes someone that damn miserable then just quit. "B.. but I love this game." Do you? I don't frequent these forums regularly, and yet the times I do I've become quite accustomed to seeing some of the same names crop up regularly moaning and groaning about this or that. And it's like "Why are you still here?" If you really think Square Enix is so deaf to your pleas then go enjoy another game and stop letting yourself be so miserable and find something else to enjoy. Not only are you ruining it for yourself, your attitude ruins it for others.

[xbahax92]

I find quite the opposite to be true.

Most people who are pleased, or otherwise indifferent, with something rarely feel the need to leave feedback. It's almost exclusively the domain of people who have a bone to pick - that's not an exclusive concept to this game. It's unhappy people who feel the need to shout from the rooftops while those who are enjoying or just coasting along that often remain quiet.

I don't think, it's fair to take any "majority/minority" argument for anyone. Various people visit the forums to complain about various issues. The interesting thing however, it's much easier to channel an opinion about serious issues, when they resonate with other forum users. And not to forget, people complain on various platforms, not only the forums.

It's partly thanks to YoshiP, that people actually use the forums and leave feedback. Whenever he does an official announcement, people seem to calm down (at least the thread activities go down). He asks us to provide feedback and here we are.

[vetch]

"Why are you still here?" If you really think Square Enix is so deaf to your pleas then go enjoy another game and stop letting yourself be so miserable and find something else to enjoy. Not only are you ruining it for yourself, your attitude ruins it for others.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect

If you think I should give up one of my social circles just because the gameplay's going downhill then you don't understand, well, anything. Excuse me if I don't care that my attitude is ruining the forums for someone who thinks "just abandon your friend group" is a reasonable course of action.